MilViz T-38A Thread?

[level7 172]

must be do to some um indiscretions the thread has disappearedi wanted to buy a fast jet and it was down to the L-39 and the T-38A but decided to go to the T-38A seeing as it's a bit closer to home. so far the frames seem pretty solid to me on my system Phenom II X4 925 + 9600GT 512 @1080P. but wow is it tricky to fly, i tried flying without reading any documentation but that hasn't gone so well. will need to spend some more time with it in order to get a feel of this AoA thingy :(

[CoolP 283]

I'm looking for it too. :(

[level7 172]

i feel bad for the OP who put up a nice review only to have it disappear

[CoolP 283]

Maybe I broke some rules without knowing it. I can only assume though. :(

[N1G 88]

Hey, we could start a new one.BobThe L-39 is quite a bit easier to fly. The talon for me is a real white knuckle experience and alot to learn.Bob

must be do to some um indiscretions the thread has disappearedi wanted to buy a fast jet and it was down to the L-39 and the T-38A but decided to go to the T-38A seeing as it's a bit closer to home. so far the frames seem pretty solid to me on my system Phenom II X4 925 + 9600GT 512 @1080P. but wow is it tricky to fly, i tried flying without reading any documentation but that hasn't gone so well. will need to spend some more time with it in order to get a feel of this AoA thingy :(

[Tom Allensworth 1,532]

Hey, we could start a new one.

Yes you could. But... if it goes the direction that the last one did with all the infantile BS, it too will be trashed.

[N1G 88]

That was quite the thread yea? Actually I am quite suprised someone did not stop it long before now. THE WORLD IS ANGRY!!RegardsBob

Yes you could. But... if it goes the direction that the last one did with all the infantile BS, it too will be trashed.

[n4gix 4,947]

...but wow is it tricky to fly, i tried flying without reading any documentation but that hasn't gone so well. will need to spend some more time with it in order to get a feel of this AoA thingy :(

This may help. One of the T-38 IP's posted a video showing the proper way to fly a pattern.Here is the urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u13I6fWqwH8

[cmpbellsjc 2,963]

This may help. One of the T-38 IP's posted a video showing the proper way to fly a pattern.

What's going on with those engine sounds starting around 1:38 to 1:55, but peaking at around 1:48. I've head that before with some sound pack on a few addons, but not all. Is that the thing they refer to as the sound cone issue or something to that effect depending on how the audio was recorded?

[Bob Scott 7,721]

Yes you could. But... if it goes the direction that the last one did with all the infantile BS, it too will be trashed.

Couldn't we delete the infantile BS posts individually, instead of the entire thread?I posted a fairly extensive list of findings from my test flights...and the developer has indicated an intent to address a lot of them. But making all of the discussion in two different threads about this add-on vanish because a tiny few polluted the thread with toxic waste doesn't seem fair in the least.

[rightseater 0]

Couldn't we delete the infantile BS posts individually, instead of the entire thread?I posted a fairly extensive list of findings from my test flights...and the developer has indicated an intent to address a lot of them. But making all of the discussion in two different threads about this add-on vanish because a tiny few polluted the thread with toxic waste doesn't seem fair in the least.

Not at this point, but in the future, YES. However, in order to do that, people need to stop quoting those "BS" posts, because that is why we can't bring the thread back. For every one bad post, there's ten people quoting it, which means removing it from every post in which it was quoted as well. I just took a look at the two threads discussing this aircraft and counted over 50 posts in two threads that would have to be edited. If people would stop quoting the nonsense posts, we would probably never have to remove a thread.

[Bob Scott 7,721]

Not at this point, but in the future, YES. However, in order to do that, people need to stop quoting those "BS" posts, because that is why we can't bring the thread back. For every one bad post, there's ten people quoting it, which means removing it from every post in which it was quoted as well. I just took a look at the two threads discussing this aircraft and counted over 50 posts in two threads that would have to be edited. If people would stop quoting the nonsense posts, we would probably never have to remove a thread.

Then the purveyors of nonsense have already won. If the moderators are incapable of separating the wheat from the chaff, then why bother posting anything of substance? :(

[Guest bstolle]

I posted a fairly extensive list of findings from my test flights...

That was exactly where the problem started. You were asked about your professional opinion, but you just provided a (partially questionable) bug list.You posted almost 20 negative points and nothing positive at all.Even in FSX it's as in many other cases; only bad news are good news, so guessing the direction the thread was heading was foreseeable.

[CoolP 283]

Bernt, if a guy with quite some competence posts his views on 20 topics and also includes suggestions or possible solutions, this isn't something to run into but to be happy about.If some items form up different opinions, you can discuss them of course and exactly this discussion was intended, because it's useful for all people involved.I wouldn't relate a 20 item list to an overall negative view, but to a detailed one, that's all.I first wondered why another user asked for Bob's view on the T-38, but, after reading, I was very pleased about some 'think about' items. Milviz also reacted open, which did not render any of your fine work useless or bad.You did well there, I think that Bob also mentioned this. Refinement is an evolutionary process, not a sort of war.But I'm still a bit sad about the whole thread being gone now. I understand the reasons from the mod side, but I liked the different or detailed views on most of the pages and I also think that some potential customers could have made use of them, now.

[Bob Scott 7,721]

That was exactly where the problem started. You were asked about your professional opinion, but you just provided a (partially questionable) bug list.You posted almost 20 negative points and nothing positive at all.Even in FSX it's as in many other cases; only bad news are good news, so guessing the direction the thread was heading was foreseeable.

Then you didn't read what I wrote, which started with an overall positive assessment of the add-on. I do remember saying at the very onset it was a good start and worth the $40 asking price. I think that qualifies as positive.