August 1, 201114 yr Hi Bryan Any idea why once the After Take Off Checklist is called for, I notice that the Logo and Position light switches are turned off? Latest Updates for both(iFly+FS2Crew) installed. Thanks Rick Almeida
August 1, 201114 yr Commercial Member Hi Rick, Not sure.. FO shouldn't do that. Do you have those lights connected to any key or joystick buttons? Best, B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
August 1, 201114 yr Author Hi Rick, Not sure.. FO shouldn't do that. Do you have those lights connected to any key or joystick buttons? Best,Hi Bryan Thanks for the very prompt reply,as usual. No, I have no other buttons programmed on my joystick other than what your manual has suggested, the 3 buttons(main,secondary,panel on/off). I thought it was a bit odd as the Position Lights are turned on when starting off all the pre-flight,etc and then are then if I am night flying, the Postion and Logo lights get turned off. Also noticed that when taking off and calling for LNAV,VNAV,Command A,Climb Thrust,the pre-selected Flaps 15 setting now mysteriously goes down to full flaps,leading to a near stall.Fortunately,as I'm monitoring that odd behaviour,I'm able to rectify it Rick Almeida
August 1, 201114 yr Author Hi Bryan Thanks for the very prompt reply,as usual. No, I have no other buttons programmed on my joystick other than what your manual has suggested, the 3 buttons(main,secondary,panel on/off). I thought it was a bit odd as the Position Lights are turned on when starting off all the pre-flight,etc and then are then if I am night flying, the Postion and Logo lights get turned off. Also noticed that when taking off and calling for LNAV,VNAV,Command A,Climb Thrust,the pre-selected Flaps 15 setting now mysteriously goes down to full flaps,leading to a near stall.Fortunately,as I'm monitoring that odd behaviour,I'm able to rectify it Update to previous post Noticed that that Position lights switch is actually turned off when calling for the Runway Procedure,when the F/O switches off the Taxi light and the Position light.Have uninstalled Button,re-installed it,same result including the flaps being set to 40 once the climb-out is started before Flaps 5 is called for.Weird. Rick Almeida
August 2, 201114 yr Commercial Member Hi Rick, That is weird. I just re-looked at the code, and the FO shouldn't touch the position lights during the runway entry procedure. As for flaps 40, that makes no sense either. Did this always happen for you or did it just start happening? Confirm you're not using any external hardware the controls flaps, etc. Cheers, B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
August 2, 201114 yr Author Hi Rick, That is weird. I just re-looked at the code, and the FO shouldn't touch the position lights during the runway entry procedure. As for flaps 40, that makes no sense either. Did this always happen for you or did it just start happening? Confirm you're not using any external hardware the controls flaps, etc. Cheers,Hi Bryan Thanks for your response. I have had that Position lights,as well as Taxi light+Logo light(which the F/O does not select)issue before your latest Update and before the iFly737 SP but did not pay it much attention as I thought perhaps it was a minor aberration.Now that the flaps after lift-off are going down to 40,it has made me sit up and take note of these strange behaviours. Now,as an additional by-product,I have also noticed when I initiate the Button version by clicking on the Standby altimeter,where before the whole Main Panel was visible,now I cannot see the Pwr button so have to drag that panel to the left as I cannot re-size it.This too has just out of the blue manifested.Luckily as I have already memorized the flow and actions,once powered up, I can cope.But as with the above oddities,this too seems odd behaviour. Rick Almeida
August 2, 201114 yr Commercial Member Hi Rick, That's a clue. I think the problem is you may be re-sizing the panel (even though with the latest iFly update the panels should be locked). Resizing can cause weird issues. Are you using a laptop with a small screen? You can go into the panel.cfg file and change the default location of the main panel if you know how to do that. Other than that, I'm not really sure... the flaps 40 is a big and obvious one and the only complaints I've had regarding flaps were from a couple guys who were using external hardware to control flaps. B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
August 3, 201114 yr Author Hi Rick, That's a clue. I think the problem is you may be re-sizing the panel (even though with the latest iFly update the panels should be locked). Resizing can cause weird issues. Are you using a laptop with a small screen? You can go into the panel.cfg file and change the default location of the main panel if you know how to do that. Other than that, I'm not really sure... the flaps 40 is a big and obvious one and the only complaints I've had regarding flaps were from a couple guys who were using external hardware to control flaps.Hi Bryan No, not using a laptop. 19-in CRT screen. But that main panel cannot be re-sized and I have not done anything with it.After installing the FS2Crew Update as well as the iFly Update,when I started using the Button version,that Main Panel was centred correctly right across the MCP.All of a sudden one day, I could not see the PWR button to initiate the FS2Crew. I tried to re-size it but could not,so had to drag 'n drop it to the left to get access to that PWR button.The Main Button scrolling legends were now as a result obscured but that did not matter to me as I knew what the Main Button actions were. I know how to edit .cfg files but as regards editing the default location of the Main Panel,not quite so sure, but I'll check and let you know. Thanks for the reply. Rick Almeida
August 3, 201114 yr Commercial Member Hi Rick, The "all of a sudden one day" part is concerning. Code doesn't just change. Something must have changed on your system. At any rate, you can change the panel location by opening the panel.cfg file for each specific model you want to edit with Notepad and changing the this line in WINDOW 21, which will be found near the bottom of the panel.cfg. [Window21]size_mm=972, 56pixel_size=972, 56position=3 <---- THIS ONEvisible=0ident=1000zorder=100gauge00=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737Voice!FS2Crew_MainPanel, 0,0,972,56gauge01=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737Voice!FS2Crew_VoiceMain, 10,10,5,5gauge02=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737Voice!FS2Crew_Audio, 20,20,5,5gauge03=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737Voice!FS2Crew_Input, 30,30,5,5 --- Position 0 is top left, 1 is top middle, 2 is top right, 3 is middle left And so on. Cheers, B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
August 3, 201114 yr Author Hi Rick, The "all of a sudden one day" part is concerning. Code doesn't just change. Something must have changed on your system. At any rate, you can change the panel location by opening the panel.cfg file for each specific model you want to edit with Notepad and changing the this line in WINDOW 21, which will be found near the bottom of the panel.cfg. [Window21]size_mm=972, 56pixel_size=972, 56position=3 <---- THIS ONEvisible=0ident=1000zorder=100gauge00=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737Voice!FS2Crew_MainPanel, 0,0,972,56gauge01=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737Voice!FS2Crew_VoiceMain, 10,10,5,5gauge02=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737Voice!FS2Crew_Audio, 20,20,5,5gauge03=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737Voice!FS2Crew_Input, 30,30,5,5 --- Position 0 is top left, 1 is top middle, 2 is top right, 3 is middle left And so on. Cheers,Hello Bryan Just had a look at Window 21 in my iFly737-800 and guess what? This is what I found compared to yours: [Window21]size_mm=1196, 56pixel_size=1196, 56position=3visible=0ident=1000zorder=100Sizeable=0gauge00=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737!FS2Crew_MainPanel, 0,0,1196,56gauge01=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737!FS2Crew_Audio, 20,20,5,5gauge02=FS2Crew2010\Versions\IFly737\Gauges\FS2CrewIFly737!FS2Crew_Input, 30,30,5,5 How odd as I had nothing to do with a panel.cfg that has been working fine for me. Anyway,it is now amended as per yours. Will update if there is a change. Rick Almeida
August 3, 201114 yr Author Hi Bryan Alas, no change as can be seen from the screengrab. Now, I am really scratching my head. Rick Almeida
August 4, 201114 yr Commercial Member Rick, Sorry, you were only supposed to change the "Position" entry in the Panel.CFG. I copied the example from the 'Voice Control' version of the Panel.CFG; that's why it didn't match up. Please do this: 1. Run the iFly Config Manager. 2. Uncheck Enable Button. 3. Click Update 4. Re-check Enable Button. 5. Click Update. That will restore everything back. Open the Panel.cfg file again and only change the POSITION to 0. I think you may also need to increase your FSX screen resolution setting in the FSX display options menu. I think it may be set to a value too small. B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
August 4, 201114 yr Author Rick, Sorry, you were only supposed to change the "Position" entry in the Panel.CFG. I copied the example from the 'Voice Control' version of the Panel.CFG; that's why it didn't match up. Please do this: 1. Run the iFly Config Manager. 2. Uncheck Enable Button. 3. Click Update 4. Re-check Enable Button. 5. Click Update. That will restore everything back. Open the Panel.cfg file again and only change the POSITION to 0. I think you may also need to increase your FSX screen resolution setting in the FSX display options menu. I think it may be set to a value too small.Hi Bryan Thanks for that. I thought it was a bit odd that despite editing the panel.cfg(Normal),the Main Panel still did not fit across the MCP. Will do and update. Rick Almeida
August 4, 201114 yr Author Bryan Tried your latest suggestions---sad to say, does not work.No problems with the VC version.So, I'm going to uninstall the iFly 737NGX and your iFly-related stuff and then re-install.Let's see if that fixes it. Rick Almeida
August 4, 201114 yr Author Update #2Hi Bryan Uninstalled both iFly737+FS2Crew;re-installed inc. the SP+Update.Still the same.Scratched my head a bit wondering what else could it be. Lo and behold! You were on the right track after all.I had in fact updated my ATi graphics drivers and it reset the display resolution which is why I could not see the full length of that Main Panel.Fixed that little problem. But as you can see from the attachments, that does not explain why when just about to ask for flaps to be set in the Before Taxi Checklist,it goes to full setting,and despite asking for Flaps 15,which it goes to via the F/O,at take off(2nd pic),it goes back to full flaps, and the Position lights gets turned off. I'm well and truly stumped by this one. Rick Almeida
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