January 6, 201214 yr I appologise, to PMDG for asking, as I know that both Robert and Tabs both mentioned that Multicrew is planned, but my curriosity is getting the best of me, so here goes....PMDG, do you guys have anything to share with us regarding. Specifically I'm curious if....1. You guys have started coding for it?2. If so, how is it going? Any snags, limitations, or roadblocks?3. Is it's development priority lower than lets say, the BBJ, the Military variant of the NGX, the 777 etc?4. Have you guys decided whether it will run on the sim computer, a networked computer or both?5. Might Multicrew actually be developed to be compatible with other past or future PMDG projects?Man, I would really appreciate any info... And once again, sorry to pester you guys about something that has been mildly aproached before.ThanksJB Edited January 6, 201214 yr by Buzz313th Buzz313th
January 8, 201214 yr Author Tabs, or Robert. Are you guys that unsure of Multicrew that you can't take a stab at answering any of the questions?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJB Buzz313th
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January 8, 201214 yr Commercial Member It's still something we'd like to do - not going to guarantee anything though as always. There's significant challenges in doing it. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
January 8, 201214 yr Author It's still something we'd like to do - not going to guarantee anything though as always. There's significant challenges in doing it.Thanks Ryan.I honestly appreciate the reply.. I'll hope for the best and that you guys can pull it off.JB Buzz313th
January 8, 201214 yr It's still something we'd like to do - not going to guarantee anything though as always. There's significant challenges in doing it.I thought so, of course this is terrible complicated. Multicrew means that every knob you change in the cockpit is send to the other pc and more. With all the possiblities you have in the NGX it is quite though to program.But if you guys consider giving up, because it takes to long and cost to much money and development time, I Just want to remind that this is more than an update. I would pay for it..Regards,Jan Reineke
January 8, 201214 yr Author I feel the same. One of the biggest reasons I was always very excited about the NGX was the fact that they mentioned it would be a shared cockpit. Personally I don't care who makes it happen, pmdg or another 3rd party dev I am really hoping the NGX sooner or later has the ability to have a shared cockpit.Ryan, will the SDK enable a developer to create a companion addon to the NGX to allow for shared cockpit? And would that developer be able to freely market it within the flightsim community to be sold for profit free and clear of royalties to PMDG?JBSent from my iPhone using TapatalkJB Edited January 8, 201214 yr by Buzz313th Buzz313th
January 8, 201214 yr Will the SDK enable a developer to create a companion addon to the NGX to allow for shared cockpit? And would that developer be able to freely market it within the flightsim community to be sold for profit free and clear of royalties to PMDG?Interesting question. I suspect the FS2Crew deveoper has some insight into this. He is waiting on the SDK to complete his payware addon for the PMSG 737NGX. Maybe this is another reason the SDK is held up in "Legal" ?Would any other developer attempt to produce a Multicrew solution for the 737NGX ? That is another question.Even with the 737 SDK ( which one assumes would give the information to Read and write to all switches, knobs and Gauges in the 737), the difficult part is still the implimenation of a reliable SHARING over the Internet, a task that is not trivial.Would a developer ever recover his investment in this development in such a complex application, given the relatively small number of potential sales. ?Who knows - certainly not me ! .. but it is seeming more and move likely, as time passes, that the chances of of a Multicrew Solution for the 737NGX, is fast slipping away. :( Edited January 8, 201214 yr by FSMP
January 9, 201214 yr Author Who knows - certainly not me ! .. but it is seeming more and move likely, as time passes, that the chances of of a Multicrew Solution for the 737NGX, is fast slipping away.I really hope thats not the case, as it was a very strong selling point for me when it was mentioned by PMDG.It's even more of a shame if PMDG does throw their hands up on Multicrew, especially considering, that in more than two posts, Ryan or Robert have stated that they specifically coded the NGX in anticipation of the shared cockpit functionality of Multicrew, which, on the bright side, should make it easier for another developer to implement it.Ryan, will the SDK enable a developer to create a companion addon to the NGX to allow for shared cockpit? And would that developer be able to freely market it within the flightsim community to be sold for profit free and clear of royalties to PMDG?Sorry for quoting myself and my questions above will obviously be answered in the SDK. (Which probably explains why no answer has popped up to the above questions)I'll keep my fingers crossed that You guys (PMDG) hit it hard and succeed with the Multicrew pack... And if not, then hopefully you guys will leave the option open (In the SDK) for other creative developers to help carry the crown.JB Edited January 9, 201214 yr by Buzz313th Buzz313th
January 10, 201214 yr Gents, Clearly multicrew is a desirable feature for many NGX users. I am happy to read Ryan's post, which indicates this feature is still something PMDG would like to incorporate. To date few software developers have been able to implement multicrew in complex packages. There are, of course, a couple notable exceptions. I would love to see multicrew implemented in the NGX- like many of you. I am also, if only in passing, aware of the challenges associated with successful implementation of multicrew features. My hope is that PMDG will continue to explore multicrew moving forward. I would also very much enjoy hearing from other PMDG developers regarding their opinion of the feasibility of future implementation of multicrew- whether for the NGX or future projects. I also realize how difficult it is for these guys to make statements regarding potential product features. If multicrew is a possibility I am confident PMDG are the folks we want working on it. Very excited for the next PMDG products! JW Jeffrey L. Whitaker
January 10, 201214 yr I would also pay for multicrew. Flying that airliner solo doesn't provide the same level of realism as being able to experience realistic crew management. I believe multicrew on the PMDG would really put this simulation above all else. dv dv Win 10 Pro || i7-8700K || 32GB || ASUS Z370-P MB || NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11Gb || 2 960 PRO 1TB, 840 EVO My Files in the AVSIM Library
January 10, 201214 yr Greetings All,Just my two cents here. A trend that we are seeing is as folks get tired of flying single player (Free Flight) over the years, more and more seek out a multiplayer community experience. I guess it is the natural progression for more realism and camaraderie . We have also seen that more and more companies are becoming aware of this. and at least thinking of better support for that experience. I don't think the industry has "turned the corner" just yet, but it seems to be making it into the project development meetings as a topic to discuss.PMDG, wanting to please its customers, also looks at this from the business perspective. I don't believe anyone at PMDG is getting uber-rich, as this is a more a labor of love, but it probably(hopefully) pays the bills and allows them a decent quality of life. If it makes business sense, they move to the next step.If PMDG sees fit to support a multiplayer experience or provide an SDK for third party developers, that would be a big plus for this industry. Edited January 10, 201214 yr by Zoolander -Todd
January 10, 201214 yr For me personally the "Shared Cockpit" would be the icing on the cake for the famous NGX seriesGreetzPit France
January 10, 201214 yr Commercial Member The SDK may allow for it, I'm not sure. The biggest issue is creating your own TCP/IP communication protocol that doesn't get flummoxed by routers and firewalls and stuff. Think about a program like Skype that actually manages to get through all those issues that happen with direct connections between two or more computers - it's a staggering amount of work. If someone figured that aspect of it out and then used the SDK to pull data out of the panel and transmit it, yeah it'd probably work.The SDK legal issue has nothing to do with us trying to stop people from making things that would compete with our own plans btw - it's about an actual liability concern for the company where we could be sued if a particular series of events happened, I can't go into the specifics. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
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