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[Kosta 122]

I wonder if it's possibl to install longer hoses to have the radiator out of the PC case or even out of the room.

I was wondering that myself with my watercooling loop, I had an idea of mounting my radiator outside the house - probably on the window, drilling through the window plastic - but in the end, I left the project, due to simple complications like "how does it look like" and "what's the point" :lol:

[Noel 4,507]

I wonder if it's possibl to install longer hoses to have the radiator out of the PC case or even out of the room.Cheers, - jahman.

That is a pretty good idea I think, depending on the time of year. I would love to have that thing poking out the back of my house which is only about 10" from the back of my PC. It's about 34 degrees F right now that that would have to help dramatically. Only thing is it will be 90F outside during summer. Another approach could be to route the hose and radiator under the house into the crawl space. It's pretty accessible. The range of temps there is around 45-55 year round. I'm thinking this might be awesome for quiet as well. I currently have a thru-the-wall A/C unit and created some 4" hosing that carries either very cool outside air or air conditioned air which will get my CPU at load to around 50-54F depending on how brave I feel. The other very nice thing is that I have 3 of those hoses and they blow A/C air over the main board, men, GPU & CPU. I don't think it's caused any problems for me though it is kinda dangerous have the back off the PC and cold air hitting parts. Some have expressed concern over micro condensation, but when the A/C is on it dehumidifies air and plus the air is only about 40F. The flow rate is low flow/higher volume. I'm going for water cooling for the next machine though, and I am tempted to mount the noisy parts under the house, provided they don't need much service as I'd hate to hassle w/ it.Here's another thought: how about submerging the radiator into an ice water bath? Put that sucker into a big pan of ice water--that would have to be several times more effective that blowing room air over the radiator, no? Oh boy this is getting good! Or this maybe: pick up a nice cheap 3' 'dorm' fridge, and put the radiator either into its freezer, or maybe better just into the water bath in the regular fridge part, in the water bath. Just need longer hoses! Edited January 23, 2012 by Noel

[Kosta 122]

And then maybe you just need a nuclear powerplant coolant and you are set!Nice thoughts though!

[Guest jahman]

"what's the point"

Cooler summer simming?Then in the winter you can bring the radiator back in and stuff it under your bed while you leave your PC on to bore holes in the sky a with long-distance flight. That would be electrical heating with a twist. :Big Grin:

pick up a nice cheap 3' 'dorm' fridge, and put the radiator either into its freezer

Exactly. That's called chilled water cooling.Cheers,- jahman. Edited January 23, 2012 by jahman

[Kosta 122]

Cooler summer simming?

Yeah, sure, but it's still working without those extreme measures - on the same speeds. Open two windows and all is well. It's not gonna get 10c cooler if I have PC externally cooled or if I use 3x more power.

Then in the winter you can bring the radiator back in and stuff it under your bed while you leave your PC on to bore holes in the sky a with long-distance flight. That would be electrical heating with a twist. :Big Grin:

I officially pronounce you crazy :LMAO:

[Bob Scott 7,721]

Just remember that ANY below-ambient temperature cooling solution poses the real risk of introducing condensation problems, which are a b*tch kitty to control and as deadly as any water leak.

[Guest jahman]

I officially pronounce you crazy

Moderator! Moderator! You need to ban this Word Not Allowed fella! :LMAO:Cheers,- jahman. Edited January 24, 2012 by jahman

[VirginAus737 0]

For summer simming, i don't fly. I just watch Australia having a ball against the Indians in the cricket. ^_^

[Noel 4,507]

Just remember that ANY below-ambient temperature cooling solution poses the real risk of introducing condensation problems, which are a b*tch kitty to control and as deadly as any water leak.

The real risk of condensation has to be a function of several variables including temperature, humidity, heat conductance of the media involved including contaminants, etc. This alone tells us 'it all depends'. Doesn't seem accurate to say there is real risk for ANY cooling below ambient temp cooling unless certain conditions are met.

[Ben Cap 89]

Cooler summer simming?Then in the winter you can bring the radiator back in and stuff it under your bed while you leave your PC on to bore holes in the sky a with long-distance flight. That would be electrical heating with a twist. :Big Grin:

:LMAO:

[Guest jahman]

The real risk of condensation has to be a function of several variables including temperature, humidity, heat conductance of the media involved including contaminants, etc. This alone tells us 'it all depends'.

True, but for condensation to not form, unfavourable conditions would not have to be present at any time the PC was being operated. So in practice it is highly likely condensation would form.Cheers,- jahman.

[Noel 4,507]

True, but for condensation to not form, unfavourable conditions would not have to be present at any time the PC was being operated. So in practice it is highly likely condensation would form.Cheers,- jahman.

LOL!

[Bob Scott 7,721]

The real risk of condensation has to be a function of several variables including temperature, humidity, heat conductance of the media involved including contaminants, etc. This alone tells us 'it all depends'. Doesn't seem accurate to say there is real risk for ANY cooling below ambient temp cooling unless certain conditions are met.

I think most home environments would, at some time or another, have enough ambient humidity at room temperature to present a risk of condensation on any of the below-ambient components, including coolant lines, water blocks, and radiators. If a glass of ice tea sweats while sitting in the room, there's a good chance some part of a chilled water loop would too.In practice, the guys I know that clock with below-ambient temp cooling go to almost crazy extremes to seal up their motherboards and other components. It doesn't take much water dripping on a live board to ruin your day. Edited January 24, 2012 by w6kd

[Noel 4,507]

I think most home environments would, at some time or another, have enough ambient humidity at room temperature to present a risk of condensation on any of the below-ambient components, including coolant lines, water blocks, and radiators. If a glass of ice tea sweats while sitting in the room, there's a good chance some part of a chilled water loop would too. In practice, the guys I know that clock with below-ambient temp cooling go to almost crazy extremes to seal up their motherboards and other components. It doesn't take much water dripping on a live board to ruin your day.

I see your points, thank you seems obvious now. If cooler than ambient components are isolated electrically, what would the real risk be then? Now in the glass of ice tea: ice water is somewhere under 40F or so. What is the risk of condensation if when the material in question is more like 60F? What humidity is needed to force condensation at 60F?Also, for the

[Guest jahman]

Condensation can happen at any time. The only way to avoid condensation is to not use colder than ambient air or liquid.Cheers,- jahman.