I have a popular commercial 767 which although getting on in years is still aparently quite popular, and I still like to play with it occasionally in spite of having other, more up-to-date birds in the hangar.But theres this really clunky/lazy bit of its original design which is so irritating - having to use the Alt bar (thereby totally ruining the "reality") to obtain ground services and pushback.Other developers have managed to put these commands into the FMC, and I was just wondering if this could be done easily, by mere human beings, or is it something that is firmly fixed into the original coding.

firmly fixed..

And what if you just click this button on the overhead panel?

Youre right Rafal - I should have mentioned that application. But as you know, that button brings up a little screen - totally realistic - which requires mouseclicks. Just like the annoying Flight Attendant who asks - "Ready to close up, Captain?" which brings up another popup and more mouseclicks.I know using the FMS is not "real" but at least it doesnt require a total break in the immersion.Lets hope that if the developer actually produces another aircraft they remember little things like this.

I don't want to sound testy, but given that when that particular product was first released it was light years ahead of anything else on the market (originally FS2000 - I reviewed it) and is still popular and competitive in the era of FSX, anything they do in the future is likely to set the bar way ahead of anything we currently think is even possible. I agree that what was suggested here would be a nice touch, but given the brilliance of the overall product, it truly is a "small thing."

kiwiflyer - My understanding of your post suggests that you took my comments as a criticism of the product. The point of my post is "Is it possible to change this?" which was kindly answered by Johan, and I also stated that the product was apparently still popular, which I dont think even a non-native English speaker could construe as criticism.However, seeing as you say the product was "light years ahead of anything else on the market" at the time, I say "What a shame they didnt think of a less clunky way of doing this" seeing as they got pretty much everything else right.Except for the doors. They only modellled one opening door (which is light years away from real). The developer might argue that "Its about the flying experience" (for example) so why bother making an opening door at all?Perhaps criticism, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder..

Edited February 9, 201214 yr by northridge

When I realised what add-on plane this thread was about - I couldn't believe it.The 'Alt bar' thing has never really bothered me. To each his own I guess.

It's no big deal and not worth an argument, but your use of the term "clunky/lazy bit of its original design" did bother me. It's a bit like chiding the Wright brothers for not employing ailerons or for deciding to build a biplane instead of a monoplane. The initial coding for this particular product was done over 12 years ago. There was nothing in that product that was not absolutely state of the art when they released it. I agree that it would be wonderful it it was updated using today's tools - but to describe a feature of something produced over a decade ago as "clunky" doesn't seem very fair and "lazy" is definitely not warranted. I think the developers deserve more respect than that. I'm certain you didn't mean to offend anyone and your desire to see an improvement is totally understandable. Like you, I have my "wish" list for them if they ever decide to update and improve it but given its long history, I doubt they will.

Update? Ho, ho, ho and ho..Dont you remember the abuse that was hurled at customers who dared ask for a winglet version? "So few RW carriers use winglets its not worth it" and other similar excuses And how long they took to concede and make awinglet upgrade? (which, by the way, looks absolutely brilliant as Im sure you know.)At the time of release the product was hailed as the most real-life/authentic/truest flying experience and all that - which was possibly true at the time (I was just discovering Fsim then) and is probably why they only bothered to make one opening passenger door, and made it necessary to break the immersion experience in the cockpit with pop-up-window/mouse-responses that could, if they had wanted, have been done with a simple, no-pause-required, keyboard press.But no matter. My original question was answered;: the feature is hard-coded.Like me, that 767 is getting old but occasionally still fun to be with, and as I said we are blessed with a whole load of other options in the hangar.

You clearly have an issue with the Level D product or support, and you have not disguised it well. As with all flight1 products you should try them out when you buy them and if not satisfied, claim a refund within the specified period.As the happy customers above (I am one too) have pointed out it is an older product, but in my/our opinion it is an excellent one.I understand "immersion" , but come on, is a mouse click such a sin compared to a keybord keypress ?Peter