March 5, 201214 yr You have SLI? SLI is FSX's Achilles Heel. Won't work properly. There might be a difference between DX10 and DX9 here.In the end: DX10 is a preview mode. It wasn't finished, many aircraft aren't DX10 compatible, and what you are trying has been accepted generally as a no-go.It's quite hard supporting something that is not being used.I suggest turn off and forget.
March 5, 201214 yr Also if you were running light bloom in your graphics options under DX10 preview mode, be sure and disable it for running with DX9, it is a real fps killer...I run a GTX 460 video card with 1gb of ram, and adding that BP=0 tweak as Word Not Allowed suggested, made a big difference for me performance wise, especially around the airports. Don B
March 6, 201214 yr Author Also if you were running light bloom in your graphics options under DX10 preview mode, be sure and disable it for running with DX9, it is a real fps killer...I run a GTX 460 video card with 1gb of ram, and adding that BP=0 tweak as Word Not Allowed suggested, made a big difference for me performance wise, especially around the airports.Thanks - I have always run with bloom off so...For me it seems that BP=0 does nothing - In fact I seem to get slightly better FPS with pools set as follows:PoolSize=8388608RejectThreshold=131072UsePools=1You have SLI? SLI is FSX's Achilles Heel. Won't work properly. There might be a difference between DX10 and DX9 here.In the end: DX10 is a preview mode. It wasn't finished, many aircraft aren't DX10 compatible, and what you are trying has been accepted generally as a no-go.It's quite hard supporting something that is not being used.I suggest turn off and forget.Thanks for all your help and feedback - it has been useful!I have had SLI disabled for all this tweaking, so it is only using one card.Sadly, the fact of the matter is that I get far more playable framerates with DX10 preview enabled...at the expense of the odd graphical glitch and flash. If I can't get the FPS up a bit in DX9, I think I will end up sacrificing image quality for 30+ FPS in all situations!That said, if you can be bothered, I would be interested in seeing your .cfg for comparison/hints.Cheers Cheers! Iain
March 6, 201214 yr Thanks - I have always run with bloom off so...For me it seems that BP=0 does nothing - In fact I seem to get slightly better FPS with pools set as follows:PoolSize=8388608RejectThreshold=131072UsePools=1What did you set for bp=0 exactly?As you can see I'm not home, but on my ipad, can hardly send anything.
March 6, 201214 yr Author What did you set for bp=0 exactly?As you can see I'm not home, but on my ipad, can hardly send anything.Hey Word Not Allowed,I just changed to:usepools=0and removed the other lines.Currently running a clean, non-Bojote cfg with Himemfix=1, affintymask=14 and the enable shader3.0 switch.In FSX I have all graphics settings/effects on with the exception of ground object shadows and bloom. All sliders are full to the right.Cloud draw is 70Nm and traffic is 50% for GA and Airline.Without the frame rate limiter on and under DX9, this gives me 30 to 45 FPS on the FSX default flight over Friday Harbour. The same .cfg under DX10 gives me 50-80FPS for the same flight.My stress-tester is taking off from Seattle Tacoma (ORBX) in the 737NGX - with DX9 I get 11-16FPS and 22-30ish under DX10.:) Edited March 6, 201214 yr by MrBenevolent Cheers! Iain
March 6, 201214 yr I'll test when I get home to get a difference for you on my system.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
March 7, 201214 yr Author I'll test when I get home to get a difference for you on my system.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDThanks!:) Cheers! Iain
March 8, 201214 yr LOL, I tried:DX9, with full antialiasing (8xS+2xSGSS, 16x AF in NI), with NGX at FT LOWW: 38fpsDX10, AA+AF not working, I only changed D3D10=0 to 1, and loaded the sim, same situation: 33fpsAll this with unlocked FPS. But I never run in reality with unlocked - with locked at 35, I get around 30fps in that situation.DX10 is broken. It always was, it will always be.Something is wrong with your system, as I said before.
March 8, 201214 yr Author LOL, I tried:DX9, with full antialiasing (8xS+2xSGSS, 16x AF in NI), with NGX at FT LOWW: 38fpsDX10, AA+AF not working, I only changed D3D10=0 to 1, and loaded the sim, same situation: 33fpsAll this with unlocked FPS. But I never run in reality with unlocked - with locked at 35, I get around 30fps in that situation.Interesting! I would be surprised if your additional .5Ghz OC would translate into a good 20FPS more when compared to my machine and I don't believe the 580 Vs 570 would have any significance, given how little FSX taxes modern cards.Something is wrong with your system, as I said before.Don't believe there is anything "wrong" with my system per se - it is a clean build, well configured that runs everything else I like to play just fine, I think this is more about the FSX engine and its idiosyncrasies...I am certainly not denying that DX10 is pretty rough - hence my desire to get the thing running properly in DX9, but the fact still remains that I get a better framerate in DX10 than DX9 and I am not alone in this - plenty of others seem to have the same issue.Thanks for your efforts anyway - I will continue tweaking (remembering occasional to actually fly) and see where I get to.I would be very grateful if you could publish or PM a copy of your .cfg that I could use to work with, but understand if you can't be bothered to do this.Cheers Cheers! Iain
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March 8, 201214 yr Author Well!So I started a new round of testing, using your .cfg as a base...I have now gained a good 10 fps in demanding areas under DX9 - I can take off from KSEA (ORBX) in the NGX at a pretty stable 30FPS with a 35FPS limit and everything is looking great - so nice to have rain and runways and everything else looking as they should.You know what made the difference on my system?Wasn't BP=0 - this really doesn't seem to change anything for me compared to using pools...It was turning down the water settings 1 notch.lolWelcome to FSX.I guess I got so caught up in the behind the scenes stuff, I neglected to check the simple things. Thanks again Word Not Allowed.(P.S - DX10 is still 10+ FPS quicker than DX9 even now, but it doesn't worry me now as I can get a satisfactory frame rate and smoothness under DX9!) Cheers! Iain
April 11, 201214 yr It seems no matter how I configure my Inspector settings to override the AA and Filtering, as soon as I turn off the AA and set filtering to Trilinear in FSX, I just end up with no AA and trilinear filtering - the override doesn't work at all! Hi. I have exactly the same problem. Did you resolve it? Eddie
April 11, 201214 yr Author Hi. I have exactly the same problem. Did you resolve it? Eddie Hi - yep, my issue was that I was trying to run DX10 preview mode at the same time! ...the override only works with DX9 mode. Cheers! Iain
April 11, 201214 yr OK, I followed the advice you were given about re installing. Tried that and BINGO, Nvidea Inspector is working. Eddie
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