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ATC saying to descend to "0" until established

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In the Seattle area, FSX default ATC is telling everyone (myself and AI) to descend to "0" until established on the localizor. It only happens in this area. Anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

 

I'm using Ultimate Traffic II. Also using Orbx Pacific Northwest.

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Sounds like maybe your traffic settings are too high. I have a screenie somewhere from my old box that tells one AC to climb and maintain FL920.

Regards,

 

Dave Opper

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Sounds like maybe your traffic settings are too high. I have a screenie somewhere from my old box that tells one AC to climb and maintain FL920.

 

Were you by any chance flying near the launchsite for a Saturn V rocket or Space Shuttle? LOL. Probably shouldn't laugh at this, because FSX ATC does come up with some annoying gems. Every once so often I get directed completely away from my intented airport courtesy of ATC and then promptly told that radar services have been terminated, I should contact some other place (usually nowhere near where I want to go) and maintain VFR ... I think that's their equivalent of telling someone to get lost in somewhat less diplomatic language. I've never had the descend and maintain FL0 one though, and my traffic settings are set to medium, using Traffic X. Though I have been descended to below the level of a mountain range flying into KPHX ... that seemed like one instruction to ignore for a while.

R. Francois Myburgh

 

"I have made a ceaseless effort not to ridicule, not to bewail, not to scorn human actions, but to understand them."

Baruch Spinoza (because to quote Bertrand Russell would have been offensive)

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I'll try lowering traffic settings. Never had this happen in very dense areas like NYC...only seems to be an issue in Seattle.

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I haven't used it before, but it sounds like I can use Airport Design Editor to add the approaches back into the KSEA afcad?

AFAIK, the ATC will use the altitude listed in the approach header when "vector to finals" is selected and from the transition header when a transition is selected. If there is no approach, you would only get a visual approach, not ILS. It appears to me your active airport facility data (AFCAD) for KSEA has the altitude for that approach set to 0. If you have the sdk installed, you can use ADEX to open and look at the ILS approach data for the runway in question.

 

scott s.

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Found it...approaches all set to zero...now im looking at approach charts and adjusting...we'll see how it turns out...

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Found it...approaches all set to zero...now im looking at approach charts and adjusting...we'll see how it turns out...

 

Compare your charts with the stock bgl file and see how far or close they are. Just from a curiosity standpoint.

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Dave Opper

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i opened the ORBX AFCAD with ADE, and noticed that approaches were set to 0. So it's not the fault of FS ATC. I adjusted the approach altitude to what the default KSEA afcad had. Then I recompiled. However now I noticed that there are trees and such on the airport. I'm going to reinstall the scenery and see if that fixes it. I thought I had saved a backup, but when I replaced the edited afcad with the backup the problem still existed. I'm going to reinstall the scenery and begin the process again...perhaps I missed something.

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