August 14, 201213 yr Hi everyone I'm having a tough time at the moment which ultimately is forcing me to stay grounded something that for me needs to change asap. My problem is a display one and seems to be affecting the hole computer as well as FS9 (not its fault). All computer settings as well as FS9 settings are set to x32 bit display. Could it be gamma?, all drivers are updated and the comp and fs9 have no issues other then this which ultimately destroys to look of the game (most prevalent at night).
August 14, 201213 yr Hello, sorry its unpossible to see sth on the shot. Could you please be so kind and made a day shot? Its only black now. KR
August 14, 201213 yr Author Hi I've attached a few more images, FS2004 start screen showing the display issue Aviation Herald banner showing display issue (these wavy affects are prevalent in the sky in fs9) The display problem showing the wavy affects during dusk Look at these bad textures during the night, the strobe is in the top right.
August 14, 201213 yr Check your display settings in the sim and make sure your screen resolution is x32 and not x16. regards, Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
August 14, 201213 yr Author Check your display settings in the sim and make sure your screen resolution is x32 and not x16. regards, Joe FS is set to x32 so is the whole system itself really stumped by this!
August 14, 201213 yr Maybe this is an offtopic question, but it has happened to me: did you convert the sky textures to DXT1? That format is not dégradé friendly. Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
August 14, 201213 yr Author Maybe this is an offtopic question, but it has happened to me: did you convert the sky textures to DXT1? That format is not dégradé friendly. But how would that affect the whole system? its the hole computer like this! But its most prevalent in FS9. So its something outside of FS9 is the issue just need to find out what it is :(
August 14, 201213 yr The bands of sky variation you see in the dusk picture with the Cessna are related to the newer flat screen digital video monitor system and GPU and as such not much can be done about that. You might try playing with your monitors brightness, contrast and color settings to see if you can arrive at the results you desire. If you have a photograph stored on your computer that you are familiar with and know what it should look like, you could open it with MS's picture and fax viewer and use that as a guide for adjusting things. Regards, Mel
August 15, 201213 yr Author The bands of sky variation you see in the dusk picture with the Cessna are related to the newer flat screen digital video monitor system and GPU and as such not much can be done about that. You might try playing with your monitors brightness, contrast and color settings to see if you can arrive at the results you desire. If you have a photograph stored on your computer that you are familiar with and know what it should look like, you could open it with MS's picture and fax viewer and use that as a guide for adjusting things. Regards, Mel So would a new LCD fix this problem? or is it hardware related?
August 15, 201213 yr If you are referring to the appearance of the sky the answer is no a new monitor will not fix that. Unless of course your monitor is failing. It appears that you are running Windows 7. Please post the details of your monitor specs, graphics card and motherboard. You may wish also to check in the "Hardware $ Operating Systems Discussions" section.You are more likely to find more experienced help than I can provide. I can say that there is very little that would cause what you are seeing (sky aside) that could be the cause except your monitor settings, accessed through the monitors built in buttons or a utility program that may have been provided by the manufacturer, or in your graphics cards drivers settings, perhaps a combination of both. BTW the banding in the sky, is mostly at dawn and dusk and some adjusting can minimize it but not remove it. Regards, Mel
August 15, 201213 yr Author If you are referring to the appearance of the sky the answer is no a new monitor will not fix that. Unless of course your monitor is failing. It appears that you are running Windows 7. Please post the details of your monitor specs, graphics card and motherboard. You may wish also to check in the "Hardware $ Operating Systems Discussions" section.You are more likely to find more experienced help than I can provide. I can say that there is very little that would cause what you are seeing (sky aside) that could be the cause except your monitor settings, accessed through the monitors built in buttons or a utility program that may have been provided by the manufacturer, or in your graphics cards drivers settings, perhaps a combination of both. BTW the banding in the sky, is mostly at dawn and dusk and some adjusting can minimize it but not remove it. Regards, Mel Specs: Mainboard: Dell 0P611C Chipset : nVidia nForce 680i SLI SPP Processor : Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 (4 CPUs) @ 2666 MHz Physical Memory : 4096 MB (4 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM ) Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX (2) Hard Disk : SAMSUNG HD501LJ SCSI Disk Device (500GB) DVD-Rom Drive : ATAPI DVD A DH16A1L DVD-Rom Drive : QJKLAV G9ANGT6ZC9 DVD-Rom Drive : Toshiba-Samsung DVD+-RW TS-H653A Monitor Type : Dell Computer DELL G2210 - 22 inches Network Card : Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate Professional Media Center 6.01.7601 Service Pack 1 (64-bit) Is there anything I could replace that would stop the banding issues? I never had this before on much lower spec computers :( Thanks for your help so far regardless, Mel. Regards, Cathal
August 15, 201213 yr The banding seems to be LCD wide screen and digital related. My last system was a older Dell XPS 250 and a Dell LCD monitor @ 1024x768 native resolution and a NvIdia GPU. All were analog and I never seen or had the bands. It seems the newer systems are just showing FS9s age. One other possible solution might be in regards to what sky and environment textures you are using. Some seem to be more vivid than others and any of those might be over saturating and making the bands more prominent than you are comfortable with. I still believe that you may be able adjust your monitors settings to arrive at something a bit more acceptable to you. What I see in the screen shots simply looks like the monitor is set a bit dark, . . . . ,for starters,although the picture with the Cessna 172 you posted looks good aside from the sky that you are not happy with. Again, since you said that this shows on your entire system it is not FS9 specific and that is the reason I suggest starting with you monitors internal settings. I hope we are getting somewhere. Regards, Mel
August 15, 201213 yr Author Have you any recommend brightness & contrast settings? Using the display calibrator I always seem to end up with things looking worse. Gamma settings have a lot to do with my issue I'm thinking, and once again thanks for all your help Mel I hope this issue can be solved! Regards, Cathal
August 15, 201213 yr Hi Cathal, Sorry there is no way for me to give you any recommendations that would serve any good. Best I can do is suggest that you work in small steps. Start with brightness, adjust a little and then check to see the results and repeat until things look as close to good as you can get, then move on to the next i.e. contrast, going through each category one at a time checking the results until you are as close to good (in your opinion) as can be. then go back to brightness and do it all again to fine tune until your desktop, applications and FS9 look as good as possible (again, in your opinion). Each monitor and GPU combination, along with the lighting where you computer is located is unique. Unless our systems were exactly the same and the ambient light where they are located was the same what works on mine might make yours look horrible. Regards, Mel
August 16, 201213 yr Author Hi Cathal, Sorry there is no way for me to give you any recommendations that would serve any good. Best I can do is suggest that you work in small steps. Start with brightness, adjust a little and then check to see the results and repeat until things look as close to good as you can get, then move on to the next i.e. contrast, going through each category one at a time checking the results until you are as close to good (in your opinion) as can be. then go back to brightness and do it all again to fine tune until your desktop, applications and FS9 look as good as possible (again, in your opinion). Each monitor and GPU combination, along with the lighting where you computer is located is unique. Unless our systems were exactly the same and the ambient light where they are located was the same what works on mine might make yours look horrible. Regards, Mel Thanks so much for your help Mel! after playing around with my contrast/brightness and gamma settings for nearly 6hrs! yes 6hrs! I finally have fixed the banding issue :) Thanks again Mel!! Regards, Cathal
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