September 23, 201213 yr Anthony It sounds like you need Vatsim then. They will meet your requirements and once you have got used to you will never use the fsx atc again Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk 2
September 23, 201213 yr Commercial Member Yeah if Radar Contact isn't enough, then welcome to VATSIM. Noah Bryant
September 23, 201213 yr I did sign up some time back but didn't take it any further for one reason or another. I think I'm just shying away from yet another learning curve. I probably will bite the bullet though, it's only a matter of time. Anthony O'Brien
September 23, 201213 yr I suggest if you want to see more how SIDS/STARS work in the FS world, sign up to VATSIM and listen to some ATC on VATSIM. Many VATSIM controllers expect you to use SIDS/STARS. Sometimes if it's not busy the controller may direct you to a VOR which then by-passes the majority of the sid/star. Using SIDS/STARS in a payware a/c like you said such as the qw757 for example is quite easy. However it is reccomended if you are going to fly a SID/STAR on VATSIM that you have charts for that particular sid/star. regards, Wowk
September 24, 201213 yr Commercial Member FSX ATC uses the SIDs/STARs in the sim scenery data. Thousands of airports in FSX have approaches defined with transitions, fixes, theta/rho directions, the lot - except textual approach names. When you fly with ATC they direct you on these depending on conditions. When you get to "Expect Vectors" you can choose approaches, this does not mean you can use any of them since Ai aircraft may be landing/taking off. When you use downloaded plans with SID/STAR navigation data not found in the scenery, you would need a plane, ATC, and .PLN all using the exact same navigation data (as it's not in the sim). In this case FSX ATC and Ai aircraft have no idea and continue with their own reality. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
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