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737NGX / FSX / Windows 8 x64

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Geoff,

many thanks for your advice:

 

(1) I have a Solid State Disk (Samsung 830 512 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s) and, as far as I know, it is strongly recommended not to defrag SSDs.

(2) Lower in the same topic I wrote "... re-installed FSX from scratch in C:/FSX folder to avoid any problem resulting from various Windows protection and permission issues forced upon programs placed in the Program Files and Program Files (x86) directories...".

 

Andrea

Andrea

 

Windows 8 Pro x64 - Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz - Asus P8P67 PRO - RAM Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 16 GB (4 x 4GB) - SSD Samsung 830 512 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s- Asus nVIDIA GTX 460 1 GB DDR5 RAM - LCD LED Samsung 1920 x 1080

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Ok, now I'm running the 737NGX at Olbia LIEO airport (with Olbia X add-on), starting from a gate with default NGX panel state, and everything seems to work well with Windows 8 x64.

 

I found only one problem: FSX runs without problems until I open and use the full screen menu (ALT keyboard command) to access commands / settings (e.g. change settings, change time, change weather, change gate, save flight, etc.) after a while I receive an erratic FSX fatal error. The odd thing is that as long as i do not open and use the full screen menu (and alternatively use only keyboard command) FSX runs for hours without errors.

 

Andrea

 

 

Andrea

 

Windows 8 Pro x64 - Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz - Asus P8P67 PRO - RAM Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 16 GB (4 x 4GB) - SSD Samsung 830 512 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s- Asus nVIDIA GTX 460 1 GB DDR5 RAM - LCD LED Samsung 1920 x 1080

actually why would you switch to W8? there's no performance gained compaired to 7 as tests has shown.. :unsure: it's just another look mostly. Swipe your cockpit??

any thing that moves, moves me

Ok, now I'm running the 737NGX at Olbia LIEO airport (with Olbia X add-on), starting from a gate with default NGX panel state, and everything seems to work well with Windows 8 x64.

 

I found only one problem: FSX runs without problems until I open and use the full screen menu (ALT keyboard command) to access commands / settings (e.g. change settings, change time, change weather, change gate, save flight, etc.) after a while I receive an erratic FSX fatal error. The odd thing is that as long as i do not open and use the full screen menu (and alternatively use only keyboard command) FSX runs for hours without errors.

 

Andrea

 

 

You are looking at the famous UIAutomationCore bug that cause the crash with clicking on menu. Use the Vista UIAutomationCore replacement. Just Google for it. I guess MS did not fix this with the Win8 UIAutomationCore version.

Vu Pham

i7-13700K 5.2 GHz OC, 64 GB RAM, RTX5090, SSD for Sim, SSD for system. MSFS2020, XP-12, DCS

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actually why would you switch to W8? there's no performance gained compaired to 7 as tests has shown.. :unsure: it's just another look mostly. Swipe your cockpit??

 

Using the very same hardware used earlier with Windows 7 x64, I can say that running FSX with Windows 8 x64 I noticed a (clearly) perceivable increase of FPS in all situations.

 

Andrea

Andrea

 

Windows 8 Pro x64 - Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz - Asus P8P67 PRO - RAM Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 16 GB (4 x 4GB) - SSD Samsung 830 512 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s- Asus nVIDIA GTX 460 1 GB DDR5 RAM - LCD LED Samsung 1920 x 1080

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You are looking at the famous UIAutomationCore bug that cause the crash with clicking on menu. Use the Vista UIAutomationCore replacement. Just Google for it. I guess MS did not fix this with the Win8 UIAutomationCore version.

 

Regarding the UIAtomationCore.dll issue, I found this:

*** WARNING *** Changing or deleting UIAtomationCore.dll in Windows 8 will break Modern interface.

Any change to these objects will strip operating system and user interfaces elements without ability to repair other then system restore.

 

And either by copying an older version of UIAtomationCore.dll in the FSX folder won't solve the problem completely.

 

Andrea

Andrea

 

Windows 8 Pro x64 - Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz - Asus P8P67 PRO - RAM Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 16 GB (4 x 4GB) - SSD Samsung 830 512 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s- Asus nVIDIA GTX 460 1 GB DDR5 RAM - LCD LED Samsung 1920 x 1080

Using the very same hardware used earlier with Windows 7 x64, I can say that running FSX with Windows 8 x64 I noticed a (clearly) perceivable increase of FPS in all situations.

 

Andrea

The tests I talk about has been done by professionals, unfortunatly they are in Dutch so useless to post the link on this site. I'm quite convinced that one sees what one wants to see. "New is better".

any thing that moves, moves me

Regarding the UIAtomationCore.dll issue, I found this:

*** WARNING *** Changing or deleting UIAtomationCore.dll in Windows 8 will break Modern interface.

Any change to these objects will strip operating system and user interfaces elements without ability to repair other then system restore.

 

And either by copying an older version of UIAtomationCore.dll in the FSX folder won't solve the problem completely.

 

Andrea

Andrea,

 

The warning is right. The solution is to use the vista version copied to FSX folder. FSX will load this one instead of the system default one.

Vu Pham

i7-13700K 5.2 GHz OC, 64 GB RAM, RTX5090, SSD for Sim, SSD for system. MSFS2020, XP-12, DCS

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Dear Vu, downloaded UIAtomationCore.dll from the web and copied in FSX root folder (C:\FSX in my case).

Now I'm going to test if full screen menu usage (ALT keyboard command) still causes erratic FSX fatal errors.

 

Andrea

Andrea

 

Windows 8 Pro x64 - Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz - Asus P8P67 PRO - RAM Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 16 GB (4 x 4GB) - SSD Samsung 830 512 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s- Asus nVIDIA GTX 460 1 GB DDR5 RAM - LCD LED Samsung 1920 x 1080

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Hmm... good news. With UIAtomationCore.dll (file ver. 6.0.5840.16386, dim. 155 KB) copyed in FSX root folder (C:\FSX in my case) erratic FSX fatal errors occurred using FSX full screen menu (ALT keyboard command) seem to be solved.

Andrea

 

Windows 8 Pro x64 - Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz - Asus P8P67 PRO - RAM Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 16 GB (4 x 4GB) - SSD Samsung 830 512 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s- Asus nVIDIA GTX 460 1 GB DDR5 RAM - LCD LED Samsung 1920 x 1080

After installing Windows 8 I was able to fly FSX, then all the sudden it stops working. I could open the FSX, it shows the start screen and after a while it goes back to desktop...any ideas? Grounded....!!! AMD Quad core 3.33, 8gb ram, 2 gb video card. 23 " HP LED monitor,Logitech controller...

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After installing Windows 8 I was able to fly FSX, then all the sudden it stops working. I could open the FSX, it shows the start screen and after a while it goes back to desktop...any ideas? Grounded....!!! AMD Quad core 3.33, 8gb ram, 2 gb video card. 23 " HP LED monitor,Logitech controller...

 

Dear AngelT, I think that you'd better post such kind of issues directly in the AVSIM WIN8 OS Forum.

Andrea

 

Windows 8 Pro x64 - Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz - Asus P8P67 PRO - RAM Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 16 GB (4 x 4GB) - SSD Samsung 830 512 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s- Asus nVIDIA GTX 460 1 GB DDR5 RAM - LCD LED Samsung 1920 x 1080

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