Hey,

 

I know the Quality Wings support team is on holidays till Jan 2, 2013 (I will posting this info on their site on Jan 3 too), so I want to know is anyone having Memory crash within 5 min of choosing this aircraft in Prepar3d.

 

I have the latest QualityWings 146 service pack 1.2 applied. I have tried all sorts of ways - clean install, install 1.2 update directrly, even created a fresh prepar3d config. I get OOM errors in less than or approx 5 min of choosing this aircraft.

 

Thanks,

 

skywolf

I have been flying the BAe-146 Avro-100 all day today without a problem. I do have service Pack 1.2 installed. Therefore there may not be a problem with the product.

Hey Arismac, I had to sadly reduce my LOD to 5.5 from 6.5, along with reducing AI air-crafts (My Traffic Pro 5.4B). I definitely get extended use, but at times I do occasional memory loss. 5.5 with Orbx and QW 146 did the trick.

 

Though all the Carenado Planes work great with LOD 6.5

Maybe you should increase ram and turn sliders down

 

Also i used to use 6gig of ram for fsx, now changed to 12gig.

 

Not because 6gig was getting fully used up, but cause FSX community is so small, as a result the average standard of software developed for the community so poor, you have to expect memory leaks, i think getting more ram might help stability.

 

With 12gig, maybe, before the memory leak leads to a crash, you might have landed, had a cup of coffe, watch some tv etc.

 

I just got the JustFlight 146, prefer that cause it looks just as good as quality wings, but mainly cause it got great cabin wing views. Cockpit only planes are boring. Not flown it yet though, so cant help with stability info of the justflight 146. But it looks good.

Hey Arismac, I had to sadly reduce my LOD to 5.5 from 6.5, along with reducing AI air-crafts (My Traffic Pro 5.4B). I definitely get extended use, but at times I do occasional memory loss. 5.5 with Orbx and QW 146 did the trick.

 

Though all the Carenado Planes work great with LOD 6.5

 

Hi Skywolf.

 

You will find the OOM errors are rather a cumulative issue, not just the plane and AI. Even Carenado planes can still cause the problem if say you fly around Orbx scenery, around water, and an high quality add-on airport. I have 24 Gb of RAM and the problem will still occur with the 32bit application. Since the variations of complex add-on's being present all at once and in various combinations you may find you will have to set the LOD to 4.5 to ensure solid stability in regards to the memory issue. For what it's worth, changing the sliders in my testing had little to no effect on the issue, the LOD setting on the other hand seems to be the place to solve the issue. I don't know all your add-on's, but you may find LOD 5.5 may still cause a OOM fault, just not as often. I would set it to LOD 4.5 and leave it there and set AI to your liking, within reason of course. Using this setting stopped the error with even the worst case scenario; complex aircraft, Orbx scenery, REX+OD, complex add-on airport, near the ocean at sunset. Hope this helps.

Like previous poster said, it doesn't help to OOMs even if you would have kazillion GB of RAM as P3D or FSX are 32-bit applications and thus have only 4GB address space. Even more deciding factor is the 4GB virtual address space the program has. VAS needs to have enough contiguous free blocks to work, it has to include all the OS components, drivers etc. that is required program to run and finally there are some parts of the VRAM for DX9. Thus, there is far less than 4GB usable virtual address space for FSX/P3D executable. DX10/11 that comes along with P3D will alleviate the problem significantly, probably freeing few hundred MB of VAS and RAM for the main executable.

 

I can pretty safely say that if you aren't running some large backround programs with P3D/FSX, which is pretty unlikely, 6GB RAM is really quite enough and I hadn't any problems running FSX/P3D with my earlier rig with that amount: system total RAM consumption was never even near that.

 

High LODs and heavy AI traffic will put heavy load to the VAS and memory consumption and if you add some heavy scenery and large textures to that, OOMs are almost inevitable. I don't remember when I had suffered from OOM last time, but to prevent that I keep my MT3D traffic as 35% (which is quite enough), road traffic, also heavy for memory, at 8% and LOD at 4.5. Understanding the limitations is necessary to get FSX/ESP/P3D to work nicely. In short: don't overstuff it.

hi had a couple of OOM issues ,then tried shutting down any programs,processes, IE anti virus ,spyware etc any thing running in taskbar ,so i ended up using a program called G Boost ,well I don't know what happened but no more OOM at this time ,might be worth a try ,For what its worth I followed Kostas tweaks and all is running really good and stable ,the last time I looked LM had set the LOD to 6.5 and that's where I have left it ,also I have 16gb ram installed and task manager shows 4.35gb ram being used ,using win7 64bit,there used to be a great tool for closing down processes I cant remember its name ,but you could examine the process , and find out what it did before stopping it,this was brill far more tunable than G boost ,it was amazing what you don't really need running and could safely stop,if any one is still using it please please pass on details

peter

hi had a couple of OOM issues ,then tried shutting down any programs,processes, IE anti virus ,spyware etc any thing running in taskbar ,so i ended up using a program called G Boost ,well I don't know what happened but no more OOM at this time ,might be worth a try ,For what its worth I followed Kostas tweaks and all is running really good and stable ,the last time I looked LM had set the LOD to 6.5 and that's where I have left it ,also I have 16gb ram installed and task manager shows 4.35gb ram being used ,using win7 64bit,there used to be a great tool for closing down processes I cant remember its name ,but you could examine the process , and find out what it did before stopping it,this was brill far more tunable than G boost ,it was amazing what you don't really need running and could safely stop,if any one is still using it please please pass on details

peter

If you have enough total RAM, it is totally useless to shut down backround programs as they are running on different address space than FSX. They have no effect on FSX VAS what so ever. I wouldn't also turn off my security software if my rig is only behind NAT and connected to internet, but hey it's just me.

 

For the performance resons shutting down them is also usually useless. Most of those backround processwa only reside in memory and they don't "steal" one bit of performance from the sim. Also shutting down some processes in Windows wihtout knowing what they are might make the system unstable. I would never use some automatic program to shut down processes unless I'm completely sure what it is closes down and let's me choose them beforehand. But again, it's just me.

 

And yes, LOD 6.5 works just fine for many, but it isn't any thumb rule. It all comes down to addons complexity, both scenery and aircraft, detail settings and AI. For example, if I've understand correctly, Word Not Allowed doesn't use AI at all and that gives him bit of an edge compared to those who use some traffic addon which injects hundreds of aircraft in the players "bubble" in heavy traffic areas.

Hello just an update ,about 10 days ago I had to reinstall P3D my fault nothing to do with P3d ,and guess what OOM have come back ,now in the 10mths I have has P3d 9 mths have been OOM free,so I Rechecked my overclock,memory etc no issues found, then while unning in windows mode checking out Opus Demo , I noticed that my PC was updating various programs , Spybot Avira etc So once again I closed down programs as before and No more OOM ,I do not Know what is happening but if I dont close those programs the OOm will follow,make of what you will I haven't a clue

Hello just an update ,about 10 days ago I had to reinstall P3D my fault nothing to do with P3d ,and guess what OOM have come back ,now in the 10mths I have has P3d 9 mths have been OOM free,so I Rechecked my overclock,memory etc no issues found, then while unning in windows mode checking out Opus Demo , I noticed that my PC was updating various programs , Spybot Avira etc So once again I closed down programs as before and No more OOM ,I do not Know what is happening but if I dont close those programs the OOm will follow,make of what you will I haven't a clue

 

Check that your security software isn't running P3D in some Sandbox mode. Their processes don't take any bit from the P3D memory space, that is 100% sure, unless they don't consume whole system ram, which is quite unlikely. Add P3D exe to exclusions, so firewalls and anti virus software will let program run freely.