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FSX detected a problem with a third party software (FSTramp)

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I'll lay it all out 

 

I have read one of the threads that talks about FSTramp, I don't overclock, everything runs fine (except the occasional glitch from GSX but a restart of the couati engine or a reinstall usually fixes that add on). 

 

I have been using FSTramp just fine throughout the trial and well after it ended until just a few days ago I started to see this error, someone had suggested that somehow FSTramp does something to the dll.xml file but I looked there and everything looks normal it seems 

 

I recently installed Flightbeam's SFO and FSDT O'Hare v2 and the error occoured after FB's SFO but not right away after, I have also tried uninstalling, deleting the fstramp.dll (so yes we know there's a problem with the  fstramp.dll so far, because deleting this means that FSX doesn't load FSTramp and likewise removing dll.xml makes NO addons load also preventing FSX from spitting out an error from FStramp) 

 

I can't find any information about this other than what's already posted here, I don't use sweetfx or ENB but I do use nvidia inspector and not sure if I have FXAA set in there or not or if that's even related to this problem. 

 

I haven't contacted the developer, he is very well known for ignoring or giving incorrect help for his own software as I have had to contact him in the past for the original FSNav (and why he's calling it FStramp is a stupid name). 

 

FSX only CTDs when I click yes if I want to continue to load it; or if I click No it just simply does not load FSTramp so what are your suggestions? Reinstalling doesn't fix it, if I can get it to work I'd buy it because its what I need I don't need Avilasoft unless I was going to fly exclusively VATSIM. 

You cannot remove or delete the dll.xml.  It is not like the Fsx.cfg that rebuilds if you delete it. Many developers will backup the dll.xml before installing their addon (FS DreamTeam does this before they install their Addon_Manager; so does AES).  So you have previous versions you can use in case the current one gets corrupted (like dll.xml_before_Addon_Manager).  I think this is the issue and you need to remove the FSTramp entry in the dll.xml.  Deleting FSTramp means nothing as long as there is still an entry in the dll.xml.

 

Both GSX and FSTramp use the same selection keys to make their programs work (Ctrl+F12).  Guessing you remapped one of them?

 

Best regards,

Jim

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You could try

1) Backup your xml.dll file

2) Edit the xml.dll file to show /disabled instead of enabled for the fstramp entry

it should read something like

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

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You cannot remove or delete the dll.xml.  It is not like the Fsx.cfg that rebuilds if you delete it. Many developers will backup the dll.xml before installing their addon (FS DreamTeam does this before they install their Addon_Manager; so does AES).  So you have previous versions you can use in case the current one gets corrupted (like dll.xml_before_Addon_Manager).  I think this is the issue and you need to remove the FSTramp entry in the dll.xml.  Deleting FSTramp means nothing as long as there is still an entry in the dll.xml.

 

Both GSX and FSTramp use the same selection keys to make their programs work (Ctrl+F12).  Guessing you remapped one of them?

 

Best regards,

Jim

 

Hey Jim :) 

 

Glad you responded, because you're familiar with the previous FSTramp thread; so this is all good :) 

 

yes I realize dll.xml can't be deleted/rebuilt good thing I backed it up when I tried that; but why would I want to remove the entry? Obviously when the error pops up, that's essentially what it does (disables it) but I actually WANT to use this. 

 

Yes you are correct FSTramp and GSX both have same keymaps I had to remap indeed. 

 

But why would this error occur? I noticed that other people are saying it works for awhile then suddenly it stops working altogether; well how the heck are we supposed to register it when the time comes? (I know, don't answer that one; that one the developer should answer honestly). 

 

You could try

1) Backup your xml.dll file

2) Edit the xml.dll file to show /disabled instead of enabled for the fstramp entry

it should read something like

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

 

Again, I want to use it not disable it; if I'm going to disable it then I might as well uninstall it? 

We are trying to help but you are making it difficult (for me at least).  You stated you had FSTramp and used the trial period that just ended "a few days ago".  When the trial is over, isn't it over until you purchase the product?  So FSTramp is running errors because you did not buy the product or uninstall it.  The dll.xml FSTramp entry is triggering the errors until you uninstall FSTramp or purchase it.  No indications above you bought it.  I was telling you how to get the entry out of your dll.xml and Jude was telling you to simply disable the FSTramp entry in the dll.xml (which was a brilliant recommendation).  Those two procedures should work until you purchase the product and enter a serial number for the product.  The site says it costs 30 Euros (not cheap).  Maybe you DID purchase it, entered a serial number and you are getting the crashes?

 

Best regards,

Jim

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We are trying to help but you are making it difficult (for me at least).  You stated you had FSTramp and used the trial period that just ended "a few days ago".  When the trial is over, isn't it over until you purchase the product?  So FSTramp is running errors because you did not buy the product or uninstall it.  The dll.xml FSTramp entry is triggering the errors until you uninstall FSTramp or purchase it.  No indications above you bought it.  I was telling you how to get the entry out of your dll.xml and Jude was telling you to simply disable the FSTramp entry in the dll.xml (which was a brilliant recommendation).  Those two procedures should work until you purchase the product and enter a serial number for the product.  The site says it costs 30 Euros (not cheap).  Maybe you DID purchase it, entered a serial number and you are getting the crashes?

 

Best regards,

Jim

 

 

No I didn't purchase it, and based on what the FSTramp information said within the app; is that I could keep using it beyond the trial with limited functionality (there's a banner that pops up that says so every time you run it) 

 

Now that this error pops up; I can't register it even if I purchase it there's no way to now enter the serial/key unless the application can run because that's the only way one is going to be able to enter that serial number. 

 

I did disable it; I did uninstall it and then I re-installed it so I could register it but I see no point in purchasing it if I can't even get into the said program to even register! Yes I know 30 Euros isn't cheap (its about $45, most add ons I've been getting have been $30-$50 not terribly unreasonable but its also not cheap like you said). 

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Got an email from the developer, says he doesn't have a solution for the problem... well why am I not surprised. 

 

IMO I  think FStramp is the best simple moving map system for FSX (there are others, but they use google maps, and there's Avilasoft which is very good too but I don't want/need that advanced of a product.  FSTramp seems to be the only moving map with a built in autopilot; I use it in multiplayer mostly not on VATSIM and I know that FSCommander has a moving map but I don't like how it handles moving map (and the developer of FSC says it wasn't designed to be a moving map in the first place ;)). 

 

so much for a product that he doesn't care that doesn't work 

Got an email from the developer, says he doesn't have a solution for the problem... well why am I not surprised.

Did you expect support for a product that's out of its trial period and which you haven't bought?

Gerry Howard

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Did you expect support for a product that's out of its trial period and which you haven't bought?

 

Now that's a silly question, if I were a developer; I'd support a potential buyer to get it to work so that they might actually buy it; I don't expect support beyond getting it to work or at least I expect to be able to find the fault (I don't necessarily expect the developer to be responsible for this, but if the dev has any motivation to at least ascertain what's causing this problem it would be good for him for the future if someone else should have this problem). 

 

But I am not going to buy a piece of software that now doesn't work, that defeats logic; I'd have to assume that something is at play here its possible its not even the software at fault but so far there's no way to determine that; at least not yet. 

 

 


Now that's a silly question, if I were a developer; I'd support a potential buyer to get it to work so that they might actually buy

 

But it did work during the trial period.

Gerry Howard

 

 


FSTramp seems to be the only moving map with a built in autopilot;

 

ProATC-X has a moving map, autopilot and co-pilot.  It costs a bit more though.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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We are trying to help but you are making it difficult (for me at least). You stated you had FSTramp and used the trial period that just ended "a few days ago". When the trial is over, isn't it over until you purchase the product? So FSTramp is running errors because you did not buy the product or uninstall it. The dll.xml FSTramp entry is triggering the errors until you uninstall FSTramp or purchase it. No indications above you bought it. I was telling you how to get the entry out of your dll.xml and Jude was telling you to simply disable the FSTramp entry in the dll.xml (which was a brilliant recommendation). Those two procedures should work until you purchase the product and enter a serial number for the product. The site says it costs 30 Euros (not cheap). Maybe you DID purchase it, entered a serial number and you are getting the crashes?

 

Best regards,

Jim

If FSTramp is really INTERNATIONALLY causing errors in FSX ( past evaluation period or not), then I would suggest you do not use/buy it.).

 

Consider a better alternative, like FSCommander -- also has FREE Trial period.. so why not try it and see which one you prefer,

 

I was a great supporter of FsNav, but found FsTramp very disappointing, so I switched to FsCommander., which, for me, was a far better solution.

 

 


If FSTramp is really INTERNATIONALLY causing errors in FSX ( past evaluation period or not), then I would suggest you do not use/buy it.).

 

Are you referring to me?  (you quoted my text so I'm confused).  I did not buy the product.  I am here to help the OP only.  Maybe good info for the OP to consider though.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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If FSTramp is really INTERNATIONALLY causing errors in FSX ( past evaluation period or not), then I would suggest you do not use/buy it.).

 

Consider a better alternative, like FSCommander -- also has FREE Trial period.. so why not try it and see which one you prefer,

 

I was a great supporter of FsNav, but found FsTramp very disappointing, so I switched to FsCommander., which, for me, was a far better solution.

 

I have FSC; its pretty good, there are some weird quirks about it though but not unusable if needed 

 

I really liked FST's maps with visual elevation (I can get that on Google maps) I liked how the route is color coded, and when you look up an airport a red dot appears on the airport you've looked up, etc its just very visually appealing IMO. 

 

 

ProATC-X has a moving map, autopilot and co-pilot.  It costs a bit more though.

 

Best regards,

Jim

 

Now this I am considering, yes its spendy but I wonder if the ATC is just as good if not better than Radar contact?  I saw in the RC4/JDTLLC thread/forum that he was taking a haitus and would stop development of RC5 for at least 12 months and then decide to carry on or not (that was dated June 30th 2012) I hope he comes back to finish RC5 because I would most likely buy it. 

 

ProATC-X doesn't have a trial which to me is a blunder to any developer who wants to sell it, so its something I will have to really really think about. 

There are a lot of topics in the FSX Forum that talks about the ProATC-X program.  Some contain reviews of the program.  Go to the FSX Forum and do a search for ProATC-X in the search bar in the upper right hand corner.  You'll be amazed at how much information you can get.  On the ProATC-X website, there's a forum that anyone can gain access to (do not have to be a member or registered).  It contains detailed information about the program.  You have to sometimes rely on your fellow flight simmers for advice and directions.  Personally I like the program but it does have a few issues that the developers state they are working on.  As far as interaction with AI, I doubt that will ever happen as I heard it would involve hacking into the FSX code.  But, you can easily run the FSX default AI program along with ProATC and the default program will tell you if there are AI in the area.  Sometimes ProATC does see the AI and will have you wait at the runway before lining up but mostly it will have you lining up on a runway and AI aircraft are lining up on the opposite end of the runway.  Like I said, the developers are working on issues like this and may find a solution.  Meanwhile you can have your co-pilot fly the aircraft while you look at the scenery/flight from wing view or spot view.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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