Hello guys,

 

I will get my X-Plane 10 tomorrow and in preparation of the PMDG 777 Release for FSX I would like to ask, if I should buy the 777 Worldliner Addon from Ramzzess (X-Plane.org), wait for the PMDG X-Plane Product (perhaps it is also the 777?) or buy the PMDG 777 for FSX?

 

I fear, the 777 from Ramzzess doesn't satisfy me, because I only flew PMDGs 737 NGX for the last 2 years.

I fear, I buy the 777 from Ramzzess and one day later, PMDG release the 777 for X-Plane.

And I fear mostly, that I buy 777 from Ramzzess, then beeing disappointed so much, that I buy PMDGs 777 for FSX and then PMDG release the 777 for X-Plane, so I am angry, because I didn't wait. :unsure:

 

If there is a PMDG Airliner for X-Plane, I will start to switch over to X-Plane entirely, step by step. But I don't want to wait another year (or more) without any X-Plane product from PMDG... in this case I would like to buy the 777 for FSX.

 

best regards

sebihepp

PMDG XP10 payware is probably 1-2 years away from release, look at youtube videos and read reviews of the plane to decide.  The XP10 777 is 32 and 64bit and the whole plane is modeled:  VC, Passenger Area, Toilets :lol:  etc. etc.  I like it a lot and it was worth it.  The latest version of the plane is 1.51 and it's amazing!

 

Aerosoft Review:

http://asn-xp.aerosoft.com/?page_id=206

 

Froogle Review:  http://youtu.be/g1WCyFRugQM

 

Froogie loved it! :good:

 

 

I think this thread will be moved to the XP10 forum!

 

 

 

D. Bennett

I dont like ramzees. They've overlooked a ton of things especially wingflex and external model detail and the buttons on either side of the thrust levers (TOGA I believe). PMDG 777 Xplane is 3 or so years out

I bought it a time ago but I must admit I'm really dissapointed even after last update. It is very expensive addon for what it offers. The holes in the exterior and interior, poor system functionality, horrible texture mapping in the cockpit, weird wingflex, annoying souds. I'm sorry but I have to say the Ramzzess 777 in current state is not worth the money.

No negative reviews from Online Magazines Reviewers, no negative reviews from a PMDG 777 BETA TESTER(Froogie Baby!) :lol:   Just negative reviews in this thread

It is an excellent product and if you are interested in the development of x plane as a platform it is an even more interesting product. Yes, the main issues are with the textures, but if you want a very good simulation of an airliner on this format (the very best available on x plane) then this is a good buy. All systems function beautifully, it is a joy to hand fly and the performance is very stable. It won't be as polished and as finished as what the PMDG 777 release will surely be.

 

Best wishes,

 

Martin

Its probably the best available on xp10, I have it but must admit to not flying it much as I don't really like XP10 and don't fly it too often. They are bringing out a new model shortly the 777 200 PW so will probably give it another try when that comes out.

I bought it and I am really impressed. I never thought that the systems would be modeled so deep. Even in the FMC you can enter something like "WAYPT130/5", just like in the 737 NGX from PMDG. Never saw that on any other product. You can switch through all EICAS pages and show the checklists. And you get an EFB with tools to convert *.pdf files.

 

I noticed two things on my first flight (Without tutorial or reading manuals, just sat in cockpit to try around). First, I had too much thrust. Okay, this could be due to my very tiny load of only 20 PAX and 6,000kgs of fuel. I got a climbrate of more than 6,000 fpm. Second, on some waypoints the autopilot in LNAV begins to circle. I had to manual set the next waypoint and intercept with headings... But that will be patched in future, I think

 

Edit:

I think the textures aren't worse that in PMDGs MD-11.

Glad you like it. I dont and they cant even touch PMDG level. Ramzees was a nice try tho

The fact is while it's the best 777 available for X-Plane, not all of it is prototypical. There is a fictional visible TO/GA button, While this is a required compromise for a sim, other developers for FS including PMDG, does this with an invisible or discreet click point like an existing screw, which maintains the realistic appearance of the model. The EFB visually does not resemble the real one on a 777. The Acpt, Canl, Rjct buttons on the front panel are not used properly. In the XP 777 they are being used to cancel EICAS messaging, while in reality they are part of the communication  system, to respond to data link messaging.

I don't disagree with the limitations of the product pointed out. I fly the NGX the most because I trust it to be an incredibly realistic simulation. Flightfactor are pushing the development of x plane addons to the next level and are bringing the same level of quality offered in the FSX market to x plane. They are the first to do it and I commend them for doing so well in such a short space of time. Anyway, my respect for both platforms will mean I will enjoy the very best products across the two platforms.

 

Martin

Another thought: How do you know if the aircraft will perform this climb rate at this GW in real-life?

Another thought: How do you know if the aircraft will perform this climb rate at this GW in real-life?

If you looked at the long running CS777 thread over in the FSX forum, you'd see many complaining about the unrealistic, Millennium Falcon 5000 ft climb rates (At low weights), until they saw the PMDG 777 do the same thing. Funny thing, you never saw the same complaints about theirs. From what I've seen it appears all three models are getting similar climb rates. What's interesting if you look at the flight profiles over on Flightaware, even on short hauls the real ones don't seem to match any of the sim models. They average less then 2500ft per minutes. Some less than 2000fpm. Here's a sample of a 1452sm on a 777-200L!!

 

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR333/history/20130818/2255Z/OPLA/OTBD/tracklog

Possible fpm =/= usable fpm for a commercial flight. Without knowing too much about the subject, i can think of few reasons why 6000fpm climb wouldnt be ideal for passenger or cargo flights.

 

I haven't bought the ramzess and im not sure i would buy the pmdg either. Mostly cuz i dont fly too many long-hauls, but that might be possible with pmdg. But then again i like to aim for max realism and speeding time up isnt that. So ill stick with short-haul jets

 

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4

 

 

You'd have to search quite some time to find an operator in real life that goes for a max unrestricted climb. Just because the aircraft can do it, doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea.

Just like it would be rather foolish to redline your car engine on each and every single gearshift.