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Hello!

 

I opened a post on Hardware forum but no much help.

 

Now I have a Gigabyte GTX480 Soc on my PC, and I'm thinking about change it. In cloudy conditions a have problems, the graphics are slow instead of my i7 2600k at 4,6.

 

I'm thinking about buy the EVGA GTX770 2GB with ACX Cooler version...

 

Is a good option?

 

 

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That's a very good option!

 

If you can stretch to the 4GB model I would do that, but either would be nice.

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I think there are not a 4GB version of this card.

 

 

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G'day

 

I recently upgraded to a Gigabyte GTX770, great card, but I believe, and I stand corrected by the experts...but to get optimum performance from it you will need to upgrade your cpu as well...the logic being that the 2600k is only PCIe rev 2.0 and therefore will only run the GPU at that speed, which, while being backward compatible, will not run the card to its optimum which is PCIe v3.0 (or double the speed of 2.0).

 

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Russ.

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will not run the card to its optimum which is PCIe v3.0 (or double the speed of 2.0).

 

Optimum yes, Essential no.

 

Difference in FPS between running pcie 3.0 vs 2.0 will be extremely minimal like in the vicinity of 1-2fps at most.

 

Definitely no need to go out an upgrade his CPU/motherboard etc.

 

If you're looking for the GTX 770, EVGA is the way to go. I say go out and grab one and enjoy your purchase :good:

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Optimum yes, Essential no.

 

Difference in FPS between running pcie 3.0 vs 2.0 will be extremely minimal like in the vicinity of 1-2fps at most.

 

Definitely no need to go out an upgrade his CPU/motherboard etc.

 

If you're looking for the GTX 770, EVGA is the way to go. I say go out and grab one and enjoy your purchase :good:

Is the 4GB essential for FSX? Or 2GB is enough?

 

 

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The 2GB will do just fine, the 4GB may just help to smooth things out in some situations.

 

I had a 2GB GTX 680 which is basically the same as a GTX 770 but marginally slower and FSX ran brilliantly.

 

But if the 4GB fits in your budget then go for it.

 

You'll be happy either way.

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Ok I'll buy the 2GB version so. Can I buy direct from EVGA from Spain?

 

 

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G'day

 

I recently upgraded to a Gigabyte GTX770, great card, but I believe, and I stand corrected by the experts...but to get optimum performance from it you will need to upgrade your cpu as well...the logic being that the 2600k is only PCIe rev 2.0 and therefore will only run the GPU at that speed, which, while being backward compatible, will not run the card to its optimum which is PCIe v3.0 (or double the speed of 2.0).

 

regards,

 

Russ.

Actually it doesnt affect much though. Maybe like 1 fps? or 0.5

IF you are running single gpu you will be fine. Dun waste money. I5 2500k is truely the best cpu for gaming 

But for sli or crossfire the best is change to a ivy as there are 2 gpu 

But in overall the user will be fine. Getting my msi 770 tf this week too 

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Ok I'll buy the 2GB version so. Can I buy direct from EVGA from Spain?

 

 

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Hola Jose (I'm from Spain too). I recently upgraded and I can tell you that upgrading Motherboard and CPU will give you greater results than upgrading that video card that you have which is not bad at all (It ends with an 80 after all). A new z87 motherboard with a 4770K will cost you even less than a GTX770 4Gb and you will see a greater improvement in fps and smoothness (more so if you couple it with an SSD). A 4770k at stock speeds would be faster than an overclocked 2600K.

 

I bought my new system in www.pccomponentes.com , they have the best prices I found (even for that 770GTX). I bought a Gigabyte z87x-ud5h and a 4770K and continued using my old GTX570. I'm getting around 30-40fps with the 777 at Simwings Mega Airport Madrid X.

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Hola Jose (I'm from Spain too). I recently upgraded and I can tell you that upgrading Motherboard and CPU will give you greater results than upgrading that video card that you have which is not bad at all (It ends with an 80 after all). A new z87 motherboard with a 4770K will cost you even less than a GTX770 4Gb and you will see a greater improvement in fps and smoothness (more so if you couple it with an SSD). A 4770k at stock speeds would be faster than an overclocked 2600K.

 

I bought my new system in www.pccomponentes.com , they have the best prices I found (even for that 770GTX). I bought a Gigabyte z87x-ud5h and a 4770K and continued using my old GTX570. I'm getting around 30-40fps with the 777 at Simwings Mega Airport Madrid X.

Thanks you! I always buy in this shop, but I find the EVGA 770 ACX at a price of 300 euros. 60-70 less than PCComponentes.

 

I think I can with my 2600k at 4,6Ghz more time. Is a very good processor.

 

What about overclock the 4770k? Is easy?

 

 

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What about overclock the 4770k? Is easy?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For me it has been much easier overclocking the I7-4770K( 47x100)  than on my old i7-950@4,2 (21x200) dispite the temp is about 10-15c higher but this is normal with the 4th generation so i have heard (something about the back glue on the backside of the ihs)

 

I have a 35-40% improvement  :P

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Ok tanks

 

But if you see my system details here, I think I don't need to upgrade my processor.

 

 

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Processor should be good. I have a i52500k 4.5ghz not complaining at all.

A i5 is doing just well. HT wun help you at gaming. Am buying the same gpu as you too in the next few days! 
From a sandy cpu view, i see no point upgrading the CPU any more in fact his is OC.

But dude if your gtx 480 is performing well on FSX and you are upgrading for only FSX you might want to reconsider.

I upgrade mine because for the upcoming game. my 7850 barely got me fps60 on LOW on crysis 3

You might want to refer to here http://forum.avsim.net/topic/418202-fps-what-fps-do-you-get/page-11 this guy got the GTX680 which is abit less performance than the GTX770 ( 10~20% ) 
Their nvidia set up can be found there too. Good luck for you and me . Finger cross i hope to see 40fps in my fsx 

 

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/586/Intel_Core_i5_i5-4670K_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770K.html For the little bit of performace gain i suggest you gain like a ssd to speed up the process of loading fsx it took quite long for me when am on hdd 

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Ok tanks

 

But if you see my system details here, I think I don't need to upgrade my processor.

 

 

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It is not that you NEED to upgrade the processor. It's just that, if you are expecting to see a huge improvement by upgrading your GPU, you will be dissapointed. It is widely known that FSX is a CPU dependant program. A CPU upgrade has a hugely greater effect on performance than a GPU upgrade per money spent.

 

After changing your graphics card you will only gain about 4 or 5 FPS and won't see bigger advantages unless you run triple screens at really high resolutions. Changing that CPU for a 4770K would probably give you a 15 or 20 fps increase on heavy payware scenery. I have made that mistake before and Flight Simulator has been the motor of my computer upgrades for the last decade or more. It sucks to spend 400 Euro on a new GPU to find out that FSX doesn't appreciate the money you spent.

 

Basic overclocking of the 4770K is very easy. A good basic overclock is set the multiplier to 45x for 4.5Ghz and then increase the voltage to somewhere around 1,2v and 1,25v. After that, you tweak RAM a little for stability and try to bring cache speed as close as possible to the core speed. That'll give you max temps of about 75º on air under normal application's full load.

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It is not that you NEED to upgrade the processor. It's just that, if you are expecting to see a huge improvement by upgrading your GPU, you will be dissapointed. It is widely known that FSX is a CPU dependant program. A CPU upgrade has a hugely greater effect on performance than a GPU upgrade per money spent.

 

After changing your graphics card you will only gain about 4 or 5 FPS and won't see bigger advantages unless you run triple screens at really high resolutions. Changing that CPU for a 4770K would probably give you a 15 or 20 fps increase on heavy payware scenery. I have made that mistake before and Flight Simulator has been the motor of my computer upgrades for the last decade or more. It sucks to spend 400 Euro on a new GPU to find out that FSX doesn't appreciate the money you spent.

 

Basic overclocking of the 4770K is very easy. A good basic overclock is set the multiplier to 45x for 4.5Ghz and then increase the voltage to somewhere around 1,2v and 1,25v. After that, you tweak RAM a little for stability and try to bring cache speed as close as possible to the core speed. That'll give you max temps of about 75º on air under normal application's full load.

Yes I know but seriously I think the change from a 2600k to Haswell is a waste of money... 2600k is a very good processor for OC and today it's a very good CPU.

 

I think I need a GPU upgrade, in some FSX conditions...

 

 

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Ok ...

 

I'm starting from zero.

 

Deleted fsx.cfg and renewed it. Now tweaks on it.

 

What setting do you recommend me for Nvidia Inspector? I see too diferents setups here, but not sure what i can use ... 1/2 vsync? No?

 

i7 2600k @ 4,6Ghz

8GB RAM

GTX480 SOC

SSD Vertex 4

 

EDIT: Suddenly i have noticed that my FSX takes too much time when loading a flight. Why? I have SSD.

 

PD: I'm thinking about returning to Win7 x64 and install all FSX from zero! But Win8 x64 runs so good in my system.

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Ok ...

 

I'm starting from zero.

 

Deleted fsx.cfg and renewed it. Now tweaks on it.

 

What setting do you recommend me for Nvidia Inspector? I see too diferents setups here, but not sure what i can use ... 1/2 vsync? No?

 

i7 2600k @ 4,6Ghz

8GB RAM

GTX480 SOC

SSD Vertex 4

 

EDIT: Suddenly i have noticed that my FSX takes too much time when loading a flight. Why? I have SSD.

 

PD: I'm thinking about returning to Win7 x64 and install all FSX from zero! But Win8 x64 runs so good in my system.

 

Is Hyperthreading enabled Jose?

Post a screenshot of your Inspector settings. Are you running 4xSGSS by any chance?

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Is Hyperthreading enabled Jose?

Post a screenshot of your Inspector settings. Are you running 4xSGSS by any chance?

HT is off. My OC is good. It runs FSX well months ago.

 

My inspector settings now is testing and testing. Can talk with you tomorrow via Gtalk?

 

 

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Can talk with you tomorrow via Gtalk?

 

Yeah sure. I'll be available from 6:30 pm. Just drop me a message even if I look to be offline

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Yeah sure. I'll be available from 6:30 pm. Just drop me a message even if I look to be offline

Thanks ;)

 

 

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Jose, the one thing that is going to give you the most pleasure is the lack of noise, I had the 480 before and replaced it with a 680.

 

Awesome antialias and cloud performance with the new card, but the best thing was the silence, the 480 is a noisy piece of kit :)

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Jose, the one thing that is going to give you the most pleasure is the lack of noise, I had the 480 before and replaced it with a 680.

 

Awesome antialias and cloud performance with the new card, but the best thing was the silence, the 480 is a noisy piece of kit :)

I'm selling my 480 in eBay. When sell it, I'll buy the 770 I think

 

 

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José, absolutely no need to upgrade your CPU.

 

Sure a 4770K is better but 2600K is still a beast.

 

Example: I had a 4600K at 4.9Ghz. Now I have a 4770K at 4.5Ghz. The Haswell 4770K runs FSX better than my 2600K sure, but that CPU of yours will do just fine. Don't upgrade your CPU unless you want to.

 

Maybe try overclocking a bit more if you can to give you extra performance if you like.

 

Otherwise enjoy the GTX 770 when it arrives and let us know how you find your results!

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