Hello,

 

during dusk, dawn and night PAPI lights disappear on most addon airports under different point of views.

Also threshold markings, taxiway markings and red lights disappear.

 

on the first picture everything is fine:

 

 

 

here you can see the missing lights. I have only changed my viewpoint by some degrees.

 

 

I also changed the legacy slider by one dot to "scenery" with no success.

Especially disappearing PAPI lights are not really funny on approach.

 

Is this problem intended to be fixed with the next update Steve?

 

Regards Chris

Also experincing this...

Regards

Same here.. Even with ballast lights on aircraft.

Disable effects and try again. This is a legacy airport? Which one? If it's a legacy airport then a ballast will normally fix it.

This Airport is EDDH (Hamburg) from Aerosoft's German Airports 3, but adding a ballast light didn't work as remco already said.

 

What do you mean with disable effects?

I uninstalled the library then installed the library again without ticking the "DX10 Compatible Effects" Button, but also with no success.

I bought the airport EDDH.  

 

Effects disabled - Aircraft Lights off  (includes when the aircraft is a plane spotter with no lights)  Runways lights are the first effect in the scene and so get hit with the full force of the DX10 effects bugs - so strange light cutoffs etc exactly as you describe.

 

Effects disabled - Aircraft Lights On - the aircraft lights now take the hit of the DX10 effects bug - runways lights operate correctly.  What happens varies  a bit depending on whether the aircraft lights are embedded in the model or are in the aircraft.cfg.

 

Effects enabled - Runway lights are turned on and off by the landing lights.  Some aircraft may experience strange cutoffs without a ballast.

 

I am sorry, but without access to the C++ code but there can never be a total fix for the DX10 light effects system. 

 

 

Thank you for your efforts Steve.

 

So the only chance that these airports will work properly is a DX10 patch by the developers.

In case of Aerosoft however, I really have my doubts they will do this. :rolleyes:

 

Regards Chris

For those airports with the big jets and standard lights it seems that you must have the aircraft landing lights on for the airport runway lights to function reliably.

 

GA aircraft  seem to work ok with any lighting circuit on (and a ballast if effects are enabled)

/signup here.

 

Same Problem in Aerosoft EDDE.

 

Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tte3EZSa91U

 

Its mostly ok when the "compatible Lights and Effects" are off, but sometimes the Lights still disappear. Same Problem in LOWI (Aerosoft too).

 

Steve says ist an Aerosoft Problem. Maybe someday there will be a Fix for it...

 

Ia it not possible just to Change the File which contains the Lights?

It not a really an Aerosoft problem  but unfortunately only they could provide a workaround. 

The fundamental problem is that DX10 effects system has bugs in it.  This is why aircraft lights don't work as they should in DX10.  To  some extent this can be worked around which is what the effects button tries to do.

 

The problem is that when a legacy airports use the "Light" ASM command in their code (not all legacy airports do this by the way)  it is implemented in the FSX engine as a DX10 effect but not one that can be converted in any way i.e it doesn't reference an external effects.fx file.  As you say in this case the best results are achieved with the Effects fix OFF, but even then there can be moments where the lights will cut off at certain viewing angles - the extent of this can be influenced by the plane that you use.

 

In this case the only full solution would be to reimplement the runway lights with a different technique - e,g using a FSX SDK technique.  But only Aerosoft could really do this.

 

By the way the airport looks visually better with the slider in position 5 I find.

Steve, i dont even have Lights on Mytraffic Planes. They are there, but are avery dark, cant see them if ive been 100 Metres away.  How can i fix that?

 

The Airport Lights and the Mytraffic lights worked before ive installed your Program!

Hi Daniel:

 

 

 

The Airport Lights and the Mytraffic lights worked before ive installed your Program!

 

When saying this - are you talking about DX9 or DX10?

Dx10!

Patched with Steve's Patch v3.2.2 from the Avsim Library or just the plain DX10 Preview with the flashing runway intersections, etc..?

If you read the whole Posting, Paul, you should know that i have the DX10 fixer...