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Hello, I am still learning a lot about how to program the fmc on aircraft on fsx, I have the capt. Sim 777 and I can load the fmc from the flight plan that I create on the fsx flight plan sceen. I wanted to see if I can do this with the pmdg 777, if soe, how is this done? Please ms me. Thank you!

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I wanted to see if I can do this with the pmdg 777, if soe, how is this done?

 

You can import a flight plan, but you cannot import the one created from the FSX planner (those are generally pretty poor anyway).  Most flight planning software will allow you to do this (PFPX), and if you have one of those, consult the manual (each one has a different process).

 

I'm guessing you don't have a flight planning software, however, so you can do one of two things:

  1. Enter it by hand, and save the route for the next time you fly it (after hand entering the route on the RTE pages, use NEXT PAGE to go back to page 1 of the RTE pages and there's a SAVE prompt there)
  2. Use something like SimRoutes.com (after generating the route, the results page will offer a download button to download the route in PMDG format)

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Welcome to AVSIM and to the PMDG forums in particular!!

 

 

 

If using the FSX flightplanner and entering by hand, consider a VOR-to-VOR flightplan with only a couple of waypoints included: They can be entered quickly and you can add (realworld!) SIDs and STARs from the PMDG navdatabase. In the FSX world the distance between two enroute waypoints doesn't really matter anyway.

 

The good thing about PMDG's rendition of the B777 is, you don't need any workarounds for the Top Of Descent to display. And if you add an ILS approach to your flightplan, the FMC will autotune the ILS frequency, just as the real plane would do.

 

The major disadvantage of the PMDG T7 over the CS version is, of course, the missing weather radar that PMDG blatantly refused to include ( :P). On the other hand PMDG offer fully functional autothrottles and a working VNAV, so they (kind of, at least) stand out against Captain Sim ( :lol:).

 

You see, you have to take the bad with the good ...     :ph34r:

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Man, that seems like a lot of work! I just want to get my flight started quickly, I don't want to spend an hour or soe preparing for a flight, or have to install a bunch of new programs, is there an easy way to get and load a flight plan into the FMC?

 

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Man, that seems like a lot of work! I just want to get my flight started quickly, I don't want to spend an hour or soe preparing for a flight, or have to install a bunch of new programs, is there an easy way to get and load a flight plan into the FMC?

 

If see you want to fire it up and fly already, it's fine! but you don't want to be a monkey in a plane so sooner or later you'll want to read the manuals and make the tutorial flight to get started.

 

It's not a lot of work at all. Maybe when you learn to use PFPX+TOPCAT it'll take you just a bit more time to get started with your flight but that's it. Also, remember it's planning the flight what makes it special.

 

Now, if you are in such a rush go can get your route from the FSX Flight Planner (default) or FlightAware.com for example. Then go to SimRoutes.com, paste it and download it in PMDG format.

Cut and paste the file in your PMDG 777 Flight Plan folder.

 

In the FMC copy the co. route code and activate. But there's so much more to do than load the flightplan that you should definitely start with the tutorial flight. I can see that having the CS 777 did not help much. Our friend scandinavian13 did the video for the written tutorial and it's pinned at the top of the 777 forum.

 

Welcome and don't be afraid of learning, it's well worth it and very rewarding. Good luck!

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Man, that seems like a lot of work! I just want to get my flight started quickly, I don't want to spend an hour or soe preparing for a flight, or have to install a bunch of new programs, is there an easy way to get and load a flight plan into the FMC?

 

Such is the life with an in-depth study sim.  That's part of the reason people buy it: immersion and depth.  It's not really set up to cater to the casual sim crowd (though they can certainly use it, with concessions).

 

As I wrote earlier, you don't need all the extra software and manual planning.  All you need to do is go to SimRoutes (or similar) and grab a route file there.  Put it in your 777 flight plan folder (FS Directory > PMDG > 777 > Flight Plans...or something to that effect).

 

If you're departing from somewhere in the States, you can copy a route from FlightAware, put it into SimRoutes' tool, and download that.  It only takes a few minutes once you get the work flow down.

 

 

Our friend scandinavian13 did the video for the written tutorial and it's pinned at the top of the 777 forum.

 

Thanks! :wink:

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Man, that seems like a lot of work! I just want to get my flight started quickly, I don't want to spend an hour or soe preparing for a flight, or have to install a bunch of new programs, is there an easy way to get and load a flight plan into the FMC?

 

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Choosing an arrival runway with a STAR gives you enough waypoints for the FMC. Strictly speaking, from a purely technical point of view, you don't even have to add a single enroute waypoint before the STAR. It can hardly be less work, IMO.

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I also just figured out that I can't talk to AFC via button on the keyboard, I guess this is designed for all of you expert FSX simmers, and pilot's! LOL

 

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Never mind my last post, I just had a glitch, that's why the ACC window did not pop up!

 

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I have tried to enter a route from route finder .com and the fmc keeps telling me invalid entry, I don't know how to, or what to do, an some one help a dummy out? Lol

 

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Now, I am using the route finder. Com & the fmc does not have any of the sids that the route finder route has on it, now, can anyone tell me what to do now? Oh boy!

 

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can anyone tell me what to do now?

 

Probably outdated data from RouteFinder, or your navdata is out of date in the plane.

 

As I mentioned earlier:

  1. Get a current flight plan from FlightAware
  2. Put that into SimRoutes
  3. Export a PMDG file
  4. Use the Route Request feature in the FMC to import it
  5. Fly
  6. Profit

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Flight aware will not let me get a flight plan from KIAH to PHNL, & I did sign up for a membership, this needs to be a lot simpler for a newbie like myself, anyone, any more suggestions?

 

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Can anyone from Tech support tell me why you can't have the fmc load up a pre loaded flight plan from FSX flight plan menu? If not, can it be modified to do soe

 

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Flight aware will not let me get a flight plan from KIAH to PHNL, & I did sign up for a membership, this needs to be a lot simpler for a newbie like myself, anyone, any more suggestions?

 

Flightaware is showing flight plans for UAL 201 for several different days.  Here is the current one en route:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL201/history/20131211/1520Z/KIAH/PHNL

 

You should be able to type this right into the route page of your FMC, except that JCT7 is a KIAH departure and Julle5 is an arrival for PHNL, so they  will need to be entered on the  DEP/ARR pages.  Also C1177 is not a waypoint so just skip it (I don't know what it is).

 

I don't see the point of buying a complex, quite realistic addon and then not wanting to learn to fly it.  The FSX flight plans are unrealistic, have very rudimentary departures and approaches, and use data that is very out of date.

 

Mike

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I appreciate your help, I understand what you are saying, but, if there was a way of updating this in FSX I would use it, I like using the routes provided by FSX to comply with IF plans from FSX. If there is a way to update this in FSX, please let me know

 

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"Quick and dirty" (see post #3 above):

 

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If using the FSX flightplanner and entering by hand, consider a VOR-to-VOR flightplan with only a couple of waypoints included: They can be entered quickly and you can add (realworld!) SIDs and STARs from the PMDG navdatabase. In the FSX world the distance between two enroute waypoints doesn't really matter anyway.

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A big problem with FSX flight plans is that many waypoints are out of date.  But if I understand him correctly, Oliver is suggesting that you use VOR only flight plans from FSX - VORs are much more likely to be the same now as when FSX was created, so you will find them in the 777's database.  Then you can add SIDs and STARs from the 777's own database using its Departure and Arrival windows.    You will still have some conflicts with FSX's ATC, as it will try to vector you differently from the  approach in your FMC, but usually it doesn't cut you off when you don't follow it completely.

 

Mike

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Okay, thanks Mike, & all that comment, I will try and see what happens, thanks all!

 

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Does anyone know why the jet way goes to the middle of the aircraft, & how is can this be fixed to go to the correct door?

 

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I'm just having all kinds of trouble with this software, now I am getting a lot of computer crashes! Ooh boy!

 

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Does anyone know why the jet way goes to the middle of the aircraft, & how is can this be fixed to go to the correct door?

I'm just having all kinds of trouble with this software, now I am getting a lot of computer crashes! Ooh boy!

 

Hi, again drego22,

 

Have you read the Introductory manual that comes with the PMDG 777?  It has a great deal of information about how to set up FSX and how to load the aircraft.  For example: highmemfix, don't load the 777 on top of itself, start with the FSX default flight, the best way to install FSX, and much more. 

 

Also, there is a forum thread about known issues since the aircraft's release:

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/418750-pmdg-777-issue-tracking-thread-read-before-posting/

 

You need to go through both of these carefully.  Otherwise strange things will happen and they will be impossible to troubleshoot. 

 

You also need to do the tutorial flight.  It is not very long, but it will show you how the most important features of the aircraft work, including entering flight plans.

 

Regarding the jetway, I think that is built into the model and there is no way to change it.  I could be wrong, but frankly I think it's not worth worrying about.  Plenty of times the entry/exit is not through the most forward door, but rather the second one. 

 

If I understood your previous posts, you want to use FSX flight plans so that you can use the ATC in FSX.  A couple of people have made suggestions as to how to use an FSX flight plan in the 777 FMC.  But if you can live without FSX ATC, it would be better to just copy plans from a site like flightaware.com directly into your FMC.  Once you've done it a few times you will find that it is not hard to do.  In the KIAH - PHNL flight plan, there is a SID at the beginning and a STAR at the end as already mentioned.  There are regular fixes and also route numbers.  A route number starts with a letter and is then followed by one or more numbers.  On the route page of the FMC you enter waypoints on the right, but route numbers on the left.  In fact the 777 FMC does a really cool thing.  If you enter a route number and another route number below it, it figures out the intersection where the two routes come together!  (Occasionally it does find a different intersection than the one you are looking for). 

 

Mike

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Thanks again Mike! Can you tell me how to access the tutorial for the 777?

 

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The easiest way is through the PMDG Operations Center, available in the Windows Start menu.  When you choose the 777,you will see a "Documentation" option.  The tutorial is self evident.  But also please look at the Introduction document as there are some things to do and to avoid to make it work well.  They are also available in the FSX/PMDG/777/Flight Manuals folder. 

 

Also take a look at the known issues thread I mentioned earlier -- it could save you some headaches.

 

Mike

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Okay, thanks again Mike! I really appreciate your help!

 

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Or you can use simbrief.com. It's a free site, though you have to register to use it. When you enter the destination and arrival airports it will suggest a route to you if another member has entered that route previously, as is quite likely. You can save the route in PMDG format and it will be there ready to load as a company route when you start the 777. If no route is suggested, then generate one using rfinder (selecting the AIRAC cycle you use first) and paste it in to simbrief. Remember to enable NATS in rfinder if you plan to fly transatlantic, otherwise it will give you a very long, circuitous route taking in Brazil and West Africa.

 

Simbrief gives you a whole lot more information which you can use or not, it's up to you. It's like a free version of PFPX without the detailed performance data, which you probably won't want to bother with anyway. If you are after quick and dirty ways to get flying rapdily then you certainly won't want to spend any money on flight planning addons like PFPX. I fly fairly realistically and haven't bought any either.

 

Oliver's suggestion (entering the departure and arrival then a STAR and SID) is the quickest and dirtiest method of all. But simbrief gives you more much more realism with little extra effort.

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Okay, is there any routes that I can find online that is compatible with that that is already on the FSX, another reason I am so eager to do this is because I also have the Ultimate Traffic 2 installed and without ATC, it will be hard to takeoff and land at airports. I can't thank you enough for your time and help!

 

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Are the simbrief.com maps compatible with the maps that are currently on FSX?

 

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