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Noel

Ideas why the Saitek Cessna Trim Wheel disconnects w/ every reboot?

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This is a repost but only because folks may not visit the controllers forum below often and I'm hoping anyone has any ideas.  I will need to visit the Saitek forums as well.

 

I'm stumped.  I bought it, and experienced this first thing.  So I tried connecting it to a different PC--same outcome.  So I ordered a replacement--same outcome.   So apparently I'm doing something wrong as I don't find comment about this anywhere in my web search.  I chose not to install the Smart Technology software (I think it's called) as I've seen some comments that no drivers are required.  And indeed-it works perfectly...as long as I pull the USB connector out, and put it back in.  Doesn't matter which of the 3 different USB ports I've tried this in either.  FWIW, I have FSUIPC installed, and have had the boxes relating to disconnecting the elevator trim when the A/P is on both checked and unchecked but to no avail.

 

Thoughts?  Thanks in advance--I really like this thing but don't know how to keep it connected!!  

 

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Are you by any chance connecting to USB 3.0 ports?  Just a stab question on my part there.  There have been reports of compatibility issues with other Saitek devices and USB 3.0.  Also, are both computers you mention on the same version of Windows?

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Are you by any chance connecting to USB 3.0 ports?  Just a stab question on my part there.  There have been reports of compatibility issues with other Saitek devices and USB 3.0.  Also, are both computers you mention on the same version of Windows?

Nope I read about the no USB 3.0.  Both computers are the same version of windows, and very different hardware.  I did discover a workaround that at least keeps me from needing to physically unplug/replug it into a USB 2.0 port:  I can open up the calibration dialogue and keep turning the wheel for several rotations.  Then a message pops up that it's not connected to the computer or something like that.  The dialogue spontaneously disappears, and voila the device now will drive the graphic value slider as you move the wheel whereas it doesn't when you've booted up but not gone thru this ritual.  Something's definitely amiss.  Did you install the software that comes w/ the trim wheel?

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I have exactly the same issue. I deal with it by spinning the wheel a few times when I am in fsx and windows will then "find" the wheel. I would point out that I have it connected in fsx via FSUIPC registered.

As for why this happens, I am clueless. All my other Saitek items, yoke,rudder, throttle quadrants, X52, do not display this behaviour. Guess it must be to do with internal components making the wheel passive until moved.

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I have exactly the same issue. I deal with it by spinning the wheel a few times when I am in fsx and windows will then "find" the wheel. I would point out that I have it connected in fsx via FSUIPC registered.

As for why this happens, I am clueless. All my other Saitek items, yoke,rudder, throttle quadrants, X52, do not display this behaviour. Guess it must be to do with internal components making the wheel passive until moved.

Interesting.  I maybe didn't give enough of a spin w/in sim but I will try that next which would be better than having to bring up the calibration dialogue.   Seems like a definite bug.  Do you have the software installed, SmartTechnology or whatever it is called?

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No I don't use the SST software as I feel it is really not necessary, especially for the trim wheel which is just a single axis. To be honest, you may have to spin that wheel quite a few times before it gets recognised ( spin the wheel in one direction say 10 times and then the the other way). You'll hear the windows ding when it's found. Annoying as Hell but just becomes part of the startup routine. To be honest, it's probably just a quick if not quicker to unplug and plug it in again if that works for you.....Let me know how you get on.

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Hello

 

I have the trim wheel using with Windows 7 64 bit, configured via registered FSUIPC and have not experienced this issue once

 

Wayne

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Hi Wayne. I'm jealous.

Any suggestions for us then? Do you use the Saitek driver?

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I do have the Saitek driver installed, and use FSUIPC, and always have to turn the wheel a few times for it to be recognised.

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I have to spin for the trim wheel/pc/windows to find each other .. prob about the equivalent of 1 complete revolution ... once you get in the habit its not a problem just part of your pre-flight checks!

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I have the trim wheel using with Windows 7 64 bit, configured via registered FSUIPC and have not experienced this issue once
Wayne

 

Do you have the SST software installed Wayne?  Also, when did you pick up the trim wheel?  I wonder if some batches work and some don't with this odd requirement to spin the wheel first.  Also, what is you axis sensitivity set at?  I have mine set very low.

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I have the same issue, have to turn the wheel for it to be recognized.

 

Ras

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Same here! Are you guys using a USB hub or a USB extension cable?

My opinion is that its all down to Saitek using super cheap parts.

Not knocking the controllers, They are the best budget solution available

But I think that Saitek really scrap the bottom of the barrel for cheap

components and therein lies the issue!

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Noel I don't use the sst software, picked up the trim wheel Mid January this year. I have my axis set through fsuipc only cant recall even setting a sensitivity. I am using a USB extension cable plugged into a USB2 port on windows 7 ultimate 64 bit

 

Wayne

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Noel I don't use the sst software, picked up the trim wheel Mid January this year. I have my axis set through fsuipc only cant recall even setting a sensitivity. I am using a USB extension cable plugged into a USB2 port on windows 7 ultimate 64 bit

 

Wayne

Interesting.  I'm unable to spin the wheel and get the axis recognized w/in P3D V2 no matter how long I spin it unlike some other folks here, I MUST go to the Win 7 calibration routine and move the wheel there, then it's picked up and then works in P3D V2.   Very weird behavior but at least I have a way to make it work w/o plug/unplug.  Eventually that will wear out the plugs I'm afraid.

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Good News:  I'll post it in another thread here in case there are others who need to know this...a driver is coming out in a few weeks for the Cessna Trim Wheel that will resolve this particular issue.   This from MadCatz support this morning.

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Great news Noel! I have the same issues and am also on my second trim wheel. I thought that the first was broken but the replacement behaves the same.

 

Scott

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Great news Noel! I have the same issues and am also on my second trim wheel. I thought that the first was broken but the replacement behaves the same.

 

Scott

Yes keeping our fingers crossed!

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Good News:  I'll post it in another thread here in case there are others who need to know this...a driver is coming out in a few weeks for the Cessna Trim Wheel that will resolve this particular issue.   This from MadCatz support this morning.

 

Picking up on this old thread as my trim wheel is driving me nuts in P3Dv2.5. Did this new driver ever materialise?

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I dont think it is a driver problem, it is the fact that the device does not announce itself on the USB for the Plugnplay to see it, hence it does not appear in the list of devices to be used. This can only be fixed by changing the firmware in the device...not easy.

 

Jorge

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This is very odd.....I have had the Cessna trim wheel for about two years now, and have never had any issues with it....I have it plugged into the usb plug on my Saitek yoke. worked flawlessly in FS9, works flawlessly now in P3d, originally without fsuipc, but now with it.....flawlessly. I am running the SST software, but I don't use any profile related to the trim wheel.

Do you leave your flight sim gear plugged in all the time? Or do you plug it in only when you are ready to fly....I do the later, but I have had issues in the past with some controllers that have been left plugged in (unused) for extended periods....and when you go to use them they don't function until they are unplugged and re-plugged...??

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