Hello, girls and guys!

 

A few years ago I was flying a flight from Tampere to London Heathrow with a Ryanair Boeing 737-800. After the usual strange policies with Ryanair, and the crews inability to really check what tickets the passenger is holding, my friends ended up boarding the wrong plane to Riga and I ended up in London alone! (Bet they were shocked when their plane closed doors and announced it was heading to Riga).

 

But my question was, I was sitting as a passenger close to the aisle. A few people were drunk, as always, and unfortunately, a lot of children were aboard. But when we were in take off, our plane began to gain speed, but at rotation, we lifted once, only to slam the ground again quite hard after 3-4 seconds, then yet again, the plane made a second takeoff. The drunks raised a glass because of that.

 

My question, is this normal policy or procedure? I don't travel with western airplanes a lot, but it hasn't happened on other flights and I know something was obviously wrong. Was this a stall or some sort or Ryanair operation?  Why did the plane simply slam down to the ground again and initiated second take off?

 

Also, during landing the touchdown was really hard, and it hurted my belly. Plane also was braking really hard and violently turned to the left to exit the runway. This was very unsual as well as I've flown with well over 100 flights.

 

I know that the route Tampere-Stansted is flown by student pilots in learning once in a while with an instructor, so I forgive them in that case. But is the actions mentioned above normal?

No. Not normal at all.

Indeed... I would think it was a case of incorrect VR speeds calculation in case this was a stall. The plane obviously didn't have a lot of runway left as it was a small airport so we lifted off around 2 seconds after the "crash"

It's not normal to "land" during take off  :lol:  but it wasn't a stall for sure.

Indeed... I would think it was a case of incorrect VR speeds calculation in case this was a stall. The plane obviously didn't have a lot of runway left as it was a small airport so we lifted off around 2 seconds after the "crash"

 

 

Hmmm, to be honest I am not too sure about your story... It wouldn't have been an incorrect VR

 

V speeds are based on single engine performance. What is the date of the 'incident'?  I can check it out for you.  If anything was abnormal it would most definitely have been recorded

Hmmm, to be honest I am not to sure about your story... It wouldn't have been an incorrect VR

 

V speeds are based on single engine performance. What is the date of the 'incident'?  I can check it out for you.  If anything was abnormal it would most definitely have been recorded

 

Thanks, that would be great. I found my booking email with it's data below. It's possibly recorded as the plane simply bounced back on take off. Also Ryanair usually lands very hard but this is on about every flight with them, which is weird.

From Tampere (TMP) to London Stansted (STN)

Wed, 18Mar09 Flight FR2195 Depart TMP at 22:55 and arrive STN at 23:45

Thanks - btw, if your recollection is correct & it was down to crew error (which I highly doubt)  Ryanair would have contacted you (to save their asses from being sued to high heaven)

 

More than likely what you felt was the aircraft being hit by a strong gust.  Anyway, will check it out.

 

- Rough landing/hard braking - No big deal it happens in all airlines.  London airports are obviously very busy, they want you vacated asap.

 

fyi - just checked the weather for that night at EFTP, calm winds & clear skies

 

Regards