May 17, 201412 yr Hello, I have recently switched to DX10 and FSX looks awesome but, I realised that in the cockpit, the frames drop considerably(for example with the a2a c172) but as soon as I switch to the outside view, it goes right back up again, even when I have add-on scenery. Has anybody found the same thing? Would the DX10 fixer resolve this? Thanks! Matt
May 17, 201412 yr Hi Matt: Nope - it's not a normal problem - usually that's a zoom issue, and the DX10 Fixer won't fix that for you. A couple of screenshots, showing framerate and zoom level of the internal and external views would be useful... Could you also add your system specs (and overclock, if any) to your User Control Panel, please, so we can see what hardware you're using? Also - it would really help diagnose your problem if you were to make a copy of your fsx.cfg , and then paste it here - same with your Nvidia Inspector, assuming you're using it - ok! Thanks, All the Best, pj i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
May 17, 201412 yr What is 'considerably'? The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
May 17, 201412 yr What is 'considerably'? It's a scientific term Ron Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
May 17, 201412 yr ...the frames drop considerably... What does he consider to be 'considerably'? I'd have thought that was a straightforward question. The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
May 17, 201412 yr What does he consider to be 'considerably'? I'd have thought that was a straightforward question. I'm with you Ron, "considerably" is subjective. Actual numbers would be more appropriate if he wants help. Most the time these guys chase FPS (tail) and it is actually running very smooth. FPS means very little in FSX. Ric Elmore
May 17, 201412 yr Author Updated the profile! 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Greatly appreciated! OOPS! Forgot about the zoom levels The image outside of the cockpit was taken at 1.00 zoom. The image in the cockpit was taken at 0.70 zoom Appreciate the help! Matt
May 17, 201412 yr Aaaah....much better, Matt! 1). The "frames drop considerably" is happening because you're not limiting them to 30 fps inside FSX. Do that and the processor is able to do it's other work (house-keeping) during the times when it gets a breather from running FSX. When you allow unlimited frames - the processor has to run FSX all the time, without any significant break, and those breaks should happen periodically - but FSX simply goes as fast as you've told it to - hence 44 frames.... that's the time that FSX should be sitting at 30, with the proc taking a breather. 2). You are using the Intel 4000 GPU for FSX - DX10. Can you disable this so that Inspector can control the GPU? 3). You need to tick AntiAliasing inside FSX - Settings - Display, and choose Anisotropic for the Filter type. This is typically done in the cfg like this:- [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780.0.0] <-- The "0.0" is the indicator for DX10. Mode=2560x1440x32 Anisotropic=1 AntiAlias=1 4). Remove "ForceFullScreenVSync=1" from the cfg - it eats about 4fps. vSync control should be handled using two settings within Inspector, and "DisablePreLoad=1" under [Main] 5). Change your "Texture_Bandwidth_Mult=80" to equal "40" - at 3.4-gig you have a low-end system, and this may contribute to stuttering when it's actually higher than appropriate. 6). CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6 - ought to be set to the min (3), too, as this is a frame hog.. 7). LOD_RADIUS=4.500000 mmm.. could be 3.5. It's a hog, too. 8). Inspector: When you get the Nvidia GPU working - start Inspector, highlight the window text at the top-left, Matt, and then type "MS". Up will pop the MS flight sims, and there will be FSX. You should then select it so that it will sense FSX starting, and will automatically apply the correct profile. At the moment (assuming it was in charge of the right GPU - it would be sensing the default FSX settings, which are basically DX9 settings. We need a different setup for DX10. (Read the How-To pdf in the sig at the bottom of this reply.) 8 items is enough for now, Matt, so absorb this, see what you can do about the GPU, and then come back her when things progress a bit further down the road - ok! All the Best, pj i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
May 17, 201412 yr Aaaah....much better, Matt! 5). Change your "Texture_Bandwidth_Mult=80" to equal "40" - at 3.4-gig you have a low-end system, and this may contribute to stuttering when it's actually higher than appropriate. All the Best, pj Paul, did you noticed he has "Texture_Bandwidth_Mult= in there twice one at 80 and the other at 40. Ric Elmore
May 17, 201412 yr Author Thanks for the help Paul! I'll be sure to use the internal frames limiter. Could it be that the fact that FSX thinks I am using the Intel 4000 GPU may be due to a bug because before I switched to DX-10 it showed The Nvidia GT 650 and I hadn't realised any considerable(there's that word again:) decrease in performance. (though I might be wrong). I tried antialiasing today but the I lost about 5 frames, but I'll give it a try any way. I'll be sure to delete "ForceFullScreenVSync=1" from the cfg. Anything that takes frames from me is my enemy:) One last thing... Am I supposed to be tweaking the FSX.cfg or the FSX.cfg.txt? I'll be sure to change the rest and will report back from enemy lines:)
May 17, 201412 yr fsx.cfg is what FSX reads, Matt. Paul, did you noticed he has "Texture_Bandwidth_Mult= in there twice one at 80 and the other at 40. No.. I didn't! Good catch. He knows now! I hate these dual GPU machines. There are tons of videos on YouTube from folks wanting to disable the Intel one for gaming. All proprietary, too. PITA. :lol: i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
May 18, 201412 yr Author Paul, I tweaked all of the above and I still get a few frames less in the cockpit (I think that is due to the animations, so I guess that's normal) than outside, but the frames inside have increased from 17 to 25, so as long as it is smooth, I am a happy camper! Thanks so much for your help... greatly appreciated! Matt
August 7, 201411 yr You are supposed to modify the fsx.cfg..not the fsx.cfg.txt. From your fsx.cfg it appeared as though you are missing [bufferpools] ..you have the bufferpools setting, but no title. That could just be you didn't copy that part, in which case no big deal, but if it's missing from the .cfg then you should put that in. And that 8x Sparse Grid Supersampling is way too much work for your card (and mine too.. 670GTX SLI) I am successfully using 8xCSAA with 4x SGSS and both my cards are getting up to 80C when in heavy clouds. I also noticed that you are not in the FSX profile, and those settings are in the Global profile in Nvidia Inspector. I'm not sure that it makes that much of a difference, but your other games may suffer. You know what I would actually do in this situation? I would just rename fsx.cfg to fsx.cfg.old...run FSX and then escape out. Take your newly created FSX.cfg and upload it to Bojotes website, where it will add a bunch of tweaks. Since you don't run with any ground or air traffic or Autogen, you should be getting a solid 60FPS, and you will after doing the bojotes tweaks. If you don't, then I would start to troubleshoot the computer and not the game.
August 7, 201411 yr You are supposed to modify the fsx.cfg..not the fsx.cfg.txt. From your fsx.cfg it appeared as though you are missing [bufferpools] ..you have the bufferpools setting, but no title. That could just be you didn't copy that part, in which case no big deal, but if it's missing from the .cfg then you should put that in. And that 8x Sparse Grid Supersampling is way too much work for your card (and mine too.. 670GTX SLI) I am successfully using 8xCSAA with 4x SGSS and both my cards are getting up to 80C when in heavy clouds. I also noticed that you are not in the FSX profile, and those settings are in the Global profile in Nvidia Inspector. I'm not sure that it makes that much of a difference, but your other games may suffer. You know what I would actually do in this situation? I would just rename fsx.cfg to fsx.cfg.old...run FSX and then escape out. Take your newly created FSX.cfg and upload it to Bojotes website, where it will add a bunch of tweaks. Since you don't run with any ground or air traffic or Autogen, you should be getting a solid 60FPS, and you will after doing the bojotes tweaks. If you don't, then I would start to troubleshoot the computer and not the game. That thread is almost 3 months old, I think he has moved on. Gotta love Bandwidth Killing Necro-Posting. Ric Elmore
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