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Problem saving flight when using P3D V2.2

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Hi

 

I continually have a problem saving a flight when using Radar Contact with P3D V2.2.

 

I save file option from within P3D V2.2. Save path  for .flt and.wx files in Radar Contact options is set correctly.

Rebuilt scenery db has been actioned. MakeRwys.exe is updated and has been run. Latest P3D V2.2 FSUIPC

version is installed.

 

For some reason when I save a flight (Noel)  the following files are created: Noel.fxml, Noel.rcd, and Noel.WX.

No file named Noel.flt is created and when I attempt to resume a saved flight by selecting Noel.rcd file, ok a

dialog box appears saying that .flt cannot be found and Radar Contact starts from initial start of flight plan in P3D V2.2.

 

What am I doing wrong or is Radar Contact not fully compatible with P3D V2.2 ?

I have even tried renaming Noel.fxml to Noel.flt but that just crashes Radar Contact and P3D V2.2.

I have searched the forum but have not found a solution to the problem.

 

Any assistance/advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

 

Noel Southam

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Here is the link to fsuipc4 updates for P3D2.2;

http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66139-updated-modules/

 

Note the reference to required installation of P3d3v22 hotfix:

 

"

Install complete FSUIPC version 4.934 Install FSUIPC4934 for FSX and Prepar3D versions 1.4 and 2.0, 2.1, 2.2

-- Main change is full support for Prepar3D versions through to 2.2 build 10438.

-- NOTE: it is not compatible with the original release of P3D 2.2. You must apply the hotfix from Lockheed Martin!

--                   (Get it from the link in this P3D message:http://www.prepar3d....iewtopic&t=6453)

-- Please see the History document after installation for full details of changes. "

 

See if that helps.

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Hi Ronzie

 

Thanks for your response. Paragraph 1 of my post stated that FSUIPC is updated  for Version 2.2 

and is the correct version which took into account the flight planner hot fix.

 

Regards

 

Noel Southam

noels7

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Any option in P3D to load its plan format and export to FSX? Any sticky preference option? I saw in a Yahoo search a reference a convert folder.

 

I pointed a P3D user to this thread that might assist.

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I cannot find any option.

I searched Yahoo using 'convert folder' and other variations of  P3D -FSX convert flight plans but

unable to find any reference. Maybe you have a link.

 

Noel Southam

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I have uninstalled/reinstalled Radar Contact. Awaiting new registration key.

Have also posted on Lockheed Martin's P3D web site.

Will see how I go from here.

 

Regards

 

Noel Southam

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For some reason when I save a flight (Noel)  the following files are created: Noel.fxml, Noel.rcd, and Noel.WX.

No file named Noel.flt is created and when I attempt to resume a saved flight by selecting Noel.rcd file, ok a

dialog box appears saying that .flt cannot be found and Radar Contact starts from initial start of flight plan in P3D V2.2.

 

Unfortunately Prepar3D version 2 does not save flights in FSX or FS9 .flt file formats, only its new fxml format. For compatibility it can actually load .FLT files, but not write them.

 

I don't think there's an easy answer, but I'll look to see whether FSUIPC's AutoSave can force a .FLT file to be produced. If so I might be able to find an automatic conversion way. If not then I'm afraid the only answer would be for RC to be updated to read fxml files, or for someone to write a little conversion program.

 

Pete

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No. It's as I thought. This is what is says explicitly in the P3D v2 documentation:

 

Flight files have the extension .FXML. If the extension is not specified, it will still save as an .FXML. If the deprecated .FLT extension is specified, it will be overwritten as an .FXML. It is not possible to save deprecated .FLT files.

 

FSUIPC's autosave does actually provide the .FLT specification, and this used to be okay in P3Dv1. But in v2, as you see, it only produces .fxml files.

 

The only way, therefore, assuming RC is never going to be updated, is to have a conversion utility. I suppose one could be written as a Lua plug-in, reacting to flights being saved automatically by using the event.sim(FLIGHTSAVE ... function.

 

Pete

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The OP is not alone in this problem.

Of course not, I would assume there was more that one P3D v2 user here!

 

Pete

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But I do find it interesting that only the OP and I seem to have posted here.  I tried sending a log to JD about this but we ended up in a somewhat circular conversation.  It is interesting to me that only two of us have brought up the problem here.  Does that mean not too many P3D flyers are using RC any longer?  I've taken to simply managing my flight sim hours (I'm retired so I can do that within broad limits) so that I can fly any given flight at one sitting.  If something interrupts my flight and I have to save it, then I am reduced to using the default ATC (laughably poor) in place of RC.  Far from a perfect work around.

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Hi Peter and Dan

 

Thanks for your input Peter. As per usual your genius and assistance prevails to help your

fellow sim users. It would be great if you or someone with the necessary skills could

produce a conversion utility.

Can you explain why P3D V2 onwards changed to .fxml format?

 

Dan I guess I will have to manage my flights as you are doing.

 

Regards

 

Noel Southam

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Thanks for your input Peter. As per usual your genius and assistance prevails to help your

fellow sim users. It would be great if you or someone with the necessary skills could

produce a conversion utility.

 

Not just +1 Peter.  +147 in my book

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I am not sure if RC actually uses the fxml file if that is the flt equivalent. What is the extension for the flight.pln?

 

If only the fxml file is used to set the P3D2 state, then RC only needs to modify its handling of the extension to feed it to P3D2.

 

The .rc file sets the RC state and has the parameters the other file names.

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If only the fxml file is used to set the P3D2 state, then RC only needs to modify its handling of the extension to feed it to P3D2.

 

I can do that in FSUIPC -- just stripping the .flt from the end will have the desired effect. But from the original report it sounds like the problem is that RC tries to find and select the .flt plan itself. Does it?

 

The change to FSUIPC to remove the .flt when it is asked by RC to load a flight is relatively trivial, but it doesn't help if you can't select it in RC's file selection dialogue.

 

Perhaps someone can clarify this. I won't be able to run RC for a day or two to check myself.

 

Pete

Can you explain why P3D V2 onwards changed to .fxml format?

 

No. How could I see into their minds? Presumably they thought it better. Microsoft themselves similarly changed file formats for .PLN files between FS9 and FSX -- luckily JD was still developing RC at that time, so took care of it.

 

Pete

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But I do find it interesting that only the OP and I seem to have posted here.

 

I didn't post, because I figured this out on my own and gave up on trying to make anything work.  

 

Pete, It looks to me that in RC4, if you type in *.* under the file name in the File Open dialog, you can see all the files. RC4 will load the previous flight file saved by FSUIPC, but of course, presently it gives nonsensical results, because it is in XML.

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RC4 will load the previous flight file saved by FSUIPC, but of course, presently it gives nonsensical results, because it is in XML.

But RC won't be reading FLT files in any case -- surely it only wants the .PLN file, which is in plain INI file text format in FS9 and XML in FSX.

 

The only part the .FLT file plays is that RC presumably wants to load it into P3D. Why is it complaining about a missing .FLT file when it really only wants the .PLN file? Or does it even want that? I thought it would have all the data it needed to resume in its own .RCD file.

 

Provided it doesn't want to actually check that the .FLT file exists, I can certainly make sure it loads the .FXML file into P3D when is requests that the .FLT file be loaded.

 

Pete

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Maybe if it doesn't really use the FLT file, but just checks for it, then you could  create a dummy FLT file  with the correct name, but that's empty.

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Maybe if it doesn't really use the FLT file, but just checks for it, then you could  create a dummy FLT file  with the correct name, but that's empty.

 

I think I'd still need to change FSUIPC so it discards the .FLT part of the name when RC asks for the flight to be loaded, because although P3Dv2 can't save FLT files it can load them if the .FLT part is given explicitly.

 

Perhaps someone would like to try it and let me know? I'll provide a link to a version of FSUIPC4 which has this change incorporated, soon ...

 

Pete

Perhaps someone would like to try it and let me know? I'll provide a link to a version of FSUIPC4 which has this change incorporated, soon ...

 

Okay. DLL only, just place it into your P3D Modules folder:

 

FSUIPC4934f.zip

 

Pete

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jd informs me that RC does not read the .wx or .flt files.

 

"i don’t read the .flt or .wx files

 

i call a fsuipc api that initiates the app to launch the saved flight. it’s fs that is loading the .flt/.wx to start the saved flight"

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Hi Ronzie

 

My apologies because this is off topic. I uninstalled/reinstalled  Radar Contact which was suggested in

a pm I received in an attempt to resolve the subject of this topic. That was 2 days ago and I followed

the usual practice to obtain a new registration key. Haven' received it yet. Is the automatic renewal not working?

 

Could you follow this up please as I want to try Peter's FSUIPC mod to see if this rectifies the problem.

 

Many thanks for your anticipated assistance.

 

Regards

 

Noel Southam

noels7

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jd informs me that RC does not read the .wx or .flt files.

 

"i don’t read the .flt or .wx files

 

i call a fsuipc api that initiates the app to launch the saved flight. it’s fs that is loading the .flt/.wx to start the saved flight"

Yes, as I said, earlier. This is why I don't understand the problem reported, ie to quote:

 

"when I attempt to resume a saved flight by selecting Noel.rcd file, ok a

dialog box appears saying that .flt cannot be found".

 

Why does a .flt file need to be found? Or, perhaps more relevantly, what is reporting this error where?

 

Maybe it is P3D reporting this?

 

Anyway, it does suggest the change I made in FSUIPC should solve it.

 

Pete

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Noel:

 

If you reinstalled RC in the same folder and disk volume/partition, then your existing key that you had should work. Only moving RC or reformatting a disk drive requires a different key.

 

If you still have a problem refer to the pinned topic on auto-registration. If your e-mail and user name has changed, then registration will have to be manually handled.

 

I trust jdtllc.com is not filtered out in your local or ISP spam filters.

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 Ron

 

Registration problem fixed. Brain fades caused by nearly 2 weeks of World Cup viewing our time(0130-0800 hrs - YPAD)

 

Regards

 

Noel Southam

noels7


Peter

 

Installed modified .dll file (refer post 20). Problem still exists in that I am confronted by .flt file not found.

What am I doing wrong? Nothing I do solves the problem. Do I have to actually be flying to safe flight?

Do I have to create folder (profiles) in modules folder of P3D V2.2? Doesn't matter I still get the same problem.

 

I think I have lost the plot.

Further advice/assistance would be appreciated.

 

I wonder if your .dll mod fixed the same problem that Dan George was experiencing.

 

Regards

 

Noel Southam

noels7

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