July 24, 201411 yr Hello. I'm hoping a few of you can let me know your opinions on something. My father is looking at having a new system put together that he uses pretty much only for FS. He got a quote from someone near him but I'm not so sure on a couple of the items. I'll hold off on my opinion just yet as I would like your input. Intel Core i5-4430 Haswell 3.0GHZ, LGA 1150 16GB RAM (PC3-12600) 2x 1TB Hard Drives, 7200RPM, 64MB Buffer DVD +/-RW Drive EVGA GeForce GTX-760 w/ 2GB GDDR5, Has 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort Intel Z87 HDMI Motherboard (NO SLI SUPPORT) 750W Power Supply (CoolMaster GXII 80 PLUS Bronze) 5-Port PCI USB 2.0 Expansion Card Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM Standard Mid-Tower Case (Black) Thanks!
July 24, 201411 yr Hello. I'm hoping a few of you can let me know your opinions on something. My father is looking at having a new system put together that he uses pretty much only for FS. He got a quote from someone near him but I'm not so sure on a couple of the items. I'll hold off on my opinion just yet as I would like your input. Intel Core i5-4430 Haswell 3.0GHZ, LGA 1150 16GB RAM (PC3-12600) 2x 1TB Hard Drives, 7200RPM, 64MB Buffer DVD +/-RW Drive EVGA GeForce GTX-760 w/ 2GB GDDR5, Has 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort Intel Z87 HDMI Motherboard (NO SLI SUPPORT) 750W Power Supply (CoolMaster GXII 80 PLUS Bronze) 5-Port PCI USB 2.0 Expansion Card Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM Standard Mid-Tower Case (Black) Thanks! Get a Z97 Board as the Z87 is a dead end for future CPU upgrades a 4790k or 4690K CPU as they can be Overclocked and have higher clock speeds and the 4690K is only $40 more GTX 770 4GB if you can as its faster and has more Vram If you want to save him some money I'll be happy to talk you or he through the build process its pretty easy. If you don't mind how much was he quoted for this build? ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI. Type Ratings B-737, ERJ-190,ERJ-170
July 24, 201411 yr Well, if he's using it just for FSX and not many other games, here are my suggestions to save you money and get more performance B) . 1.) Get one of the i5/i7 "K" processors. You can't OC the i5-4430 and 3.0GHz just won't cut it for FSX. For example, I have an i5-3330 at 3.2GHz and a GTX 750ti, and I only get about 20 fps at JFK with the NGX. The most important thing in FSX is your CPU! 2.) Save some money by getting a cheaper GPU and use that money to get a better CPU. If i were you , go for either a GTX 750ti (even a non-ti would be fine as well) or a GTX 660. Don't forget... FSX is more CPU reliant than GPU reliant. For example, I upgraded from a GT 630 to the 750ti and got maybe 1 or 2 more FPS. It's not worth getting an expensive GPU just for FSX. 3.) Get *LESS* RAM. FSX is a 32-bit program, so it can only use so much RAM. 16GB really isn't ideal for gaming in general. It's only useful if you run really complex programs. 6 or 8GB of 1600/1866 RAM would be more than enough. 4.) Depending on how many addons and other programs you use, 2 - 1TB HDDs isn't ideal. 1 will suffice (use the extra $$ to get a better CPU) or if you can afford it get an SSD! SSDs will make the game, texures, etc. load substantially faster. 5.) Now let's talk about the PSU. I'm honestly not a fan of Cool Master PSUs (had a bad experience with one), but that's all up to you. Hope this helps and saves you some money -Phil Philip LaBianca _____________________ "I think, therefore I am."
July 25, 201411 yr Author Get a Z97 Board as the Z87 is a dead end for future CPU upgrades a 4790k or 4690K CPU as they can be Overclocked and have higher clock speeds and the 4690K is only $40 more GTX 770 4GB if you can as its faster and has more Vram If you want to save him some money I'll be happy to talk you or he through the build process its pretty easy. If you don't mind how much was he quoted for this build? Overclocking won't be happening so not worred about that ability. Quote was $1,580. Thanks for the reply. Well, if he's using it just for FSX and not many other games, here are my suggestions to save you money and get more performance B) . 1.) Get one of the i5/i7 "K" processors. You can't OC the i5-4430 and 3.0GHz just won't cut it for FSX. For example, I have an i5-3330 at 3.2GHz and a GTX 750ti, and I only get about 20 fps at JFK with the NGX. The most important thing in FSX is your CPU! 2.) Save some money by getting a cheaper GPU and use that money to get a better CPU. If i were you , go for either a GTX 750ti (even a non-ti would be fine as well) or a GTX 660. Don't forget... FSX is more CPU reliant than GPU reliant. For example, I upgraded from a GT 630 to the 750ti and got maybe 1 or 2 more FPS. It's not worth getting an expensive GPU just for FSX. 3.) Get *LESS* RAM. FSX is a 32-bit program, so it can only use so much RAM. 16GB really isn't ideal for gaming in general. It's only useful if you run really complex programs. 6 or 8GB of 1600/1866 RAM would be more than enough. 4.) Depending on how many addons and other programs you use, 2 - 1TB HDDs isn't ideal. 1 will suffice (use the extra $$ to get a better CPU) or if you can afford it get an SSD! SSDs will make the game, texures, etc. load substantially faster. 5.) Now let's talk about the PSU. I'm honestly not a fan of Cool Master PSUs (had a bad experience with one), but that's all up to you. Hope this helps and saves you some money -Phil I agree about the RAM. That will be one of my suggestions for sure. The orig quote was to make the system a RAID 1 which I don't want him to do. He has two drives in his current system and uses the 2nd as a backup. But not a RAID. I won't be able to talk him out of a 2nd drive but thanks. What PSU would you recommend? Whatever it is, one that's 750W seems overkill to me.
July 25, 201411 yr Get a Z97 Board as the Z87 is a dead end for future CPU upgrades a 4790k or 4690K CPU as they can be Overclocked and have higher clock speeds and the 4690K is only $40 more GTX 770 4GB if you can as its faster and has more Vram If you want to save him some money I'll be happy to talk you or he through the build process its pretty easy. If you don't mind how much was he quoted for this build? If you built that exact system yourself It'd cost about $1050 a Savings of $530 for about an 2 hours worth of work. If you built it yourself a system like mine would cost about $1400-$1500, I get 30-40 FPS on the ground in the PMDG 777 at payware airports in bad weather with pretty high settings. Overclocking isn't hard nor dangerous it litterly takes maybe 5-10 minutes. and like I said I'd be happy to talk you or your father through the build and OC. You can also look on youtube for how to video's there are a ton PC/ OC videos on there ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI. Type Ratings B-737, ERJ-190,ERJ-170
July 25, 201411 yr Author If you built that exact system yourself It'd cost about $1050 a Savings of $530 for about an 2 hours worth of work. If you built it yourself a system like mine would cost about $1400-$1500, I get 30-40 FPS on the ground in the PMDG 777 at payware airports in bad weather with pretty high settings. Overclocking isn't hard nor dangerous it litterly takes maybe 5-10 minutes. and like I said I'd be happy to talk you or your father through the build and OC. The OC won't happen for personal reasons. Nothing else.
July 25, 201411 yr The OC won't happen for personal reasons. Nothing else. Got ya. ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI. Type Ratings B-737, ERJ-190,ERJ-170
July 25, 201411 yr If you're not overclocking, then I seriously recommend investing $40 extra and getting the i7-4790k on a Z97. It's base speed is 4.0 GHz and has a turbo of 4.4. Even without overclocking it would be a very good CPU for FSX, and certainly miles above any i5. Just my two cents.
July 25, 201411 yr Author If you're not overclocking, then I seriously recommend investing $40 extra and getting the i7-4790k on a Z97. It's base speed is 4.0 GHz and has a turbo of 4.4. Even without overclocking it would be a very good CPU for FSX, and certainly miles above any i5. Just my two cents. Good info. Thanks.
July 25, 201411 yr Quote was $1,580. They are having a laugh P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
July 25, 201411 yr Excuse me? You asked for help and opinions? Whoever quoted that price for that system is pulling a fast one. Don't like my opinion? Fine, let your father buy that system at that price and be completely underwhelmed, no skin off my nose. Where am I hating? I'm trying to help u. P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
July 25, 201411 yr Author Excuse me? You asked for help and opinions? Whoever quoted that price for that system is pulling a fast one. Don't like my opinion? Fine, let your father buy that system at that price and be completely underwhelmed, no skin off my nose. Where am I hating? I'm trying to help u. Because there was no opinion. It was just hate. If you had some kind of explanation (like the previous posters) behind your statement at least it could have been understandable.
July 25, 201411 yr Are you for real? My opinion was that they were ripping you off (as z06z63 already pointed out). There wasn't an awful lot left to add that hadn't already been said, Z97 board instead of Z87, 4790k instead of the i5 and a GTX 770 instead of the 760 if you could stretch to it. A good quality 550-600w PSU would also be a better buy than the Coolermaster. You said yourself that you had your opinions on what had been quoted but didn't want to comment yet, so I believe you probably had an inkling that what he had been quoted was WAY over the odds. P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
July 25, 201411 yr Author Are you for real? My opinion was that they were ripping you off (as z06z63 already pointed out). There wasn't an awful lot left to add that hadn't already been said, Z97 board instead of Z87, 4790k instead of the i5 and a GTX 770 instead of the 760 if you could stretch to it. A good quality 550-600w PSU would also be a better buy than the Coolermaster. You said yourself that you had your opinions on what had been quoted but didn't want to comment yet, so I believe you probably had an inkling that what he had been quoted was WAY over the odds. You're still missing the point but thanks for trying to clarify a little better. I still don't understand why the 770 over the 760 if GPU isn't as important as CPU though. Especially at approx $100 more.
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