October 15, 201411 yr Commercial Member I'm kind of jumping in here but if it makes no discernable difference why would he have seen such a difference? And, if it does do something, would these settings make any differences for FSX and/or FS9 as well? I'm not stating observations, they are facts about DX9, DX10, and DX11. It was the SGSSAA setting responsible for the AA, not the Antialiasing-Mode and Antialiasing-Setting, they are for DX9. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
October 15, 201411 yr Hi, Gemelli, You are correct, I will NOT be using those settings for DX10. There are settings in Nvidia Inspector that work specifically for DX10. I have had DX10 working beautifully, until something went wrong with an Nvidia Driver update. That brought about the completely new clean install of system software, etc. Just have been too lazy to go back and set DX10 back up. I really do like DX9 as it is, though. I have been spending way too much time trying to get P3D to look somewhat acceptable. And, then, Brian comes along and fixes the whole mess up! Cheers, Jim Hi, Carob, FSX will run nicely on your new system. Just be sure to update your system software completely, using Windows Update, before installing FSX or FS9. I don't know about NI and FS9 at all, but if you use the NI settings for FSX, you should see some pretty amazing graphics. Running it as DX9 or DX10? Or does it matter? Can you also post the link to the original AA fix topic you mentioned in your first post? Even if I get all of this I'm not sure what I should set things to. I guess that's a bigger problem, eh?
October 15, 201411 yr Author Hi, AviatorBimmer, Here is the post: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/429212-aa-workaround-for-nvidia-cards/ I used Brian's last posting for his current settings. I sure hope that they work as well for you as they have for me. It's produced what should have been from the very start! Jim Wilkerson - Official FAA Certified Chief Lav Cleaner and Soap Dispenser Filler-Upper A New Year's resolution is something that goes in one year and out the other. ~ Author unknown
October 15, 201411 yr Commercial Member Repeat: Only the two Transparency settings work in DX10 and DX11. The Sparse Grid setting is required only for some aircraft. Read more about using NI for DX9, DX10, and DX11 here. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
October 15, 201411 yr Author Hi, Carob, No, it really isn't that big of a problem. Here is the original post: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/429212-aa-workaround-for-nvidia-cards/ DX9 is completely satisfactory with me. But, I like the visuals, albeit not as much of an improvement for me, with DX10. That's why I have basically stuck to DX9. DX11 is a different thing. I really love the visuals here. But, I have pulled out my hair trying to get out the problems until Brian's post. Now, what joy. Jim Wilkerson - Official FAA Certified Chief Lav Cleaner and Soap Dispenser Filler-Upper A New Year's resolution is something that goes in one year and out the other. ~ Author unknown
October 15, 201411 yr Hi, Carob, No, it really isn't that big of a problem. Here is the original post: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/429212-aa-workaround-for-nvidia-cards/ DX9 is completely satisfactory with me. But, I like the visuals, albeit not as much of an improvement for me, with DX10. That's why I have basically stuck to DX9. DX11 is a different thing. I really love the visuals here. But, I have pulled out my hair trying to get out the problems until Brian's post. Now, what joy. So if DX11 is installed, and the DX10 box in FSX is not checked, is the application using DX11 or DX 9?
October 15, 201411 yr Commercial Member FSX uses DX9, or DX10 if you selected DX10 preview. P3Dv2 uses DX11. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
October 15, 201411 yr Commercial Member Hi, AviatorBimmer, Here is the post: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/429212-aa-workaround-for-nvidia-cards/ I used Brian's last posting for his current settings. I sure hope that they work as well for you as they have for me. It's produced what should have been from the very start! Thanks Jim, gonna give it a shot because the shimmering is really driving me nuts! Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
October 15, 201411 yr Author Hi, Steve, You don't have to repeat yourself, unless it's something you specifically want to do. It doesn't make a bit of difference whether anyone says that it does or does not work. What does make a difference is the end result from implementing the settings that Brian came up with and watching the problems be gone. To have...FINALLY...a crisp, jaggy-free, clean lined aircraft to fly through the sky instead of a jaggy-saturated, shimmering monstrosity. P3D has never looked so good. And, I have Brian to thank for it. He submitted a set of settings for Nvidia Inspector that works...for me. Take out one of the settings that Brian recommends, and it doesn't work. Simple. The following aircraft are installed, and each of them are now more exceedingly free of jaggies and shimmering: Iris Carenado Alabeo A2A Captain Sim TDS I was disgusted with the end results of just the settings found in P3D. Just using Nvidia Control Panel was not satisfactory. It wasn't until using Brian's settings in Nvidia Inspector that a nearly complete elimination of jaggies and the elimination of shimmering completely has come about. You sure are welcome, AviatorBimmer. Getting rid of the shimmering, and more specifically, the major reduction in jaggies, is a blessing. Thank goodness someone came up with these settings. I had given up. Flying only FSX, since the Nvidia Inspector settings for FSX produced a superior end result. Now, back into the world of P3D and developing more scenarios with more realism. Hopefully, some day, all will be working properly and the need for tweaking will be minimized. Like I said, at the risk of repeating myself, I sure hope the settings work as well for you as they have for me! Jim Wilkerson - Official FAA Certified Chief Lav Cleaner and Soap Dispenser Filler-Upper A New Year's resolution is something that goes in one year and out the other. ~ Author unknown
October 15, 201411 yr Commercial Member Jim, I checked out the link you gave me but it only has NI settings. I'm also interested in P3D in game settings. Can you share those with us? Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
October 15, 201411 yr Commercial Member I seem to be repeating myself hehe. What's so hard to understand? Antialiasing-Mode and Antialiasing-Setting are for DX9, and Transparency Multisampling & Transparency Supersampling are for use in DX10 and DX11. Plus not all planes in DX10 and DX11 need Sparse Grid. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
October 15, 201411 yr I seem to be repeating myself hehe. What's so hard to understand? Antialiasing-Mode and Antialiasing-Setting are for DX9, and Transparency Multisampling & Transparency Supersampling are for use in DX10 and DX11. Plus not all planes in DX10 and DX11 need Sparse Grid. Because we're following two different threads talking about similiar items. And adding your last sentenance is another reason why. For people who don't know what Anti-aliasing and Transparency Multi blah blah blah are, it's quite confusing.
October 15, 201411 yr Commercial Member You see, I'm not debating the friendly leg up the OP got from his mate, and which he showed much gratitude, which was nice. I was merely pointing out that it was the SGSS in his circumstance that led to the improvement in AA, and not the Antialiasing-Setting (which is for DX9). As such I cannot see why my post should attract such mysticism, when it attempts to enlighten in the same leg up matee way the OPs mate gave. It's explained reasonably well in the link, for non-techies. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
October 15, 201411 yr Author Hi, AviatorBimmer, Graphics: FXAA - OFF MSAA - 4 Samples Texture Filtering - 16X Texture Resolution - Medium VSync - OFF Target Frame Rate - 30 Scenery: Terrain: MAX ULTRA 2M 15CM Land Detail Textures - Checked Scenery Objects: Dense Normal Dense Water Detail: Water - High Reflections - Clouds, User Vehicle Special Effects Detail - High Special Effects Distance - Medium Lighting: Nothing checked under lighting Shadows: Ultra Enable Terrain to Receive Shadows - Checked 0M 0M 3000M Internal and External Vehicle - Cast and Receive Weather: Cloud Draw Distance - 80NM Volumetric Fog - Checked Detailed Clouds - Selected Cloud Coverage Density - High Rate of Weather Change - None Traffic: Nothing Selected (I have always flown without any additional traffic, except in Multi-Player or the Real World) All of the Realism Settings are comparable to Real World flying. I monitor my FPS occasionally and it very seldom drops below 30FPS. Jim Wilkerson - Official FAA Certified Chief Lav Cleaner and Soap Dispenser Filler-Upper A New Year's resolution is something that goes in one year and out the other. ~ Author unknown
October 15, 201411 yr Commercial Member I once read an article on nVidia AA settings and the consensus was that less than 1/2 of them had any affect at all and of those only 2 looked good. I'll probably ditch AA, or most of it when I get a driver that supports DSR. Cheers jja Jim Allen[email protected]SkyPilot Software home of FSXAssist / P3DAssist
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