my only other carenado is the 337, santa got me the mirage mainly because:

 

supports rxp 530 + 430 integration, not rxp unlimited

steam gauges, not half-baked fps hog g1000 (tried f1 b200 a while ago and it wasn't good)

simple wx gauge, not carenado's avidyne

usual gorgeous mdl, textures

 

very impressed with the mirage.  flies well and avionics are smooth and hd clear.  read about the sound complaints here so may consider addon sound later.

 

considered their new pc12 but don't have the rxp unlimited so didn't want one blank screen or use the default '530' as it's a buzzkill.

 

when the new saratoga is on sale, may pick that one up as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is a very well done aircraft, much better IMO than the jetprop.  Flies right on the numbers.  My only wish is that they'd put a DME in it but I've modded mine for that.  They keep dissing DME lately in many of their airplanes.

i guess with the gps gauge giving the same info, dme display gets pushed off.

 

the eye point is a little low so adjusted up a little, damn good looking vc.  

eyepoint= -0.12, -0.940, 1.770  

i guess with the gps gauge giving the same info, dme display gets pushed off.

 

 

 

the eye point is a little low so adjusted up a little, damn good looking vc.

 

eyepoint= -0.12, -0.940, 1.770

 

Sort of.  Really you need distance off of the second VOR for ILS approaches that use a VOR for distance.  But, yeah, you can use the GNS as a source for distance.  I suspect a lot of instructors would shudder.

 

They did the same thing on the PC12 but in a different way.  The HSI is supposed to have either VOR1 or VOR2 DME in it...pilot selected.  They didn't implement the button that switches it.  VOR2 gets no respect.

It is a very well done aircraft, much better IMO than the jetprop.

Interesting you say this. I'm tempted to buy this Mirage, allthough it feels a bit much to spend $38 on an aircraft i (almost) already have. Care to elaborate on why you think it's better? 

 

 

Interesting you say this. I'm tempted to buy this Mirage, allthough it feels a bit much to spend $38 on an aircraft i (almost) already have. Care to elaborate on why you think it's better?

 

For me, it's pretty much 2 things.

 

• The FDE on the Mirage is just nice.  Has a nice feel.  It just didn't translate that way for me in the Jetprop.
• I didn't care for the Garmin 500s.  I like glass as much as anybody but I've never, yet, liked any Carenado glass.  And they also gave me CTDs when linked with the RXP stuff. 

I, actually, gave the Jetprop a second go a couple of months back and I still didn't like it.  If you get it (get it from Flight1 so you can return it) I'd be very curious what you think.  I've modded mine quite a bit...adding a transponder, DME, added more functionality to the autopilot, a fairly complete LINDA module...all stuff free for the taking if anyone wants it.  The only thing that's not working is the Ground Radio but that's not fixable unless Carenado helps.

 

Gregg

Thx for elaborating Gregg. I'm quite happy with the way the Malibu handles, but I think it's a bit overpowered considering the limitations of the airframe (172 VNE). I'm thinking the Mirage will feel more balanced in that regard. Also I'm not a big fan of glass cockpits in simming, for all the well known reasons (FPS, readability). However there is a balance between steam and glass in the Malibu that's not too bad.

 

I'll PM you about the mods if I decide to buy the Mirage as well   :p0502: 

I meant to say I added a complete transponder...replacing the digital one in the original with one that n4gix did (and that I made some rather humble mods too.)

 

 

Thx for elaborating Gregg. I'm quite happy with the way the Malibu handles, but I think it's a bit overpowered considering the limitations of the airframe (172 VNE).

 

Do you mean it feels overpowered compared to the RW plane, or just in general.  I ask, because I actually think the JetProp is modeled very well (with the usual proviso about the FSX turboprop modelling limitations).  The RW plane is a rather odd bird which only works well if flown the way it would be IRL.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think the Mirage is a far more pleasant plane to fly, and I too would recommend it over the JetProp, but I still find the JetProp fun to fly on occasion.

 

 

 

I've modded mine quite a bit...adding a transponder, DME, added more functionality to the autopilot, a fairly complete LINDA module...all stuff free for the taking if anyone wants it. The only thing that's not working is the Ground Radio but that's not fixable unless Carenado helps.

 

Gregg, did you ever try the G500 Mods that Bert and Bliksimpie collaborated on?  I ask because I've used those from the beginning, and I've never had a CTD in the plane using the RXPs, and I'm wondering if that's the difference.

 

Scott

 

 

Gregg, did you ever try the G500 Mods that Bert and Bliksimpie collaborated on? I ask because I've used those from the beginning, and I've never had a CTD in the plane using the RXPs, and I'm wondering if that's the difference.

Scott

 

I can never find that stuff so, no, didn't do that.  If I could get them I might give it yet another shake.

Do you mean it feels overpowered compared to the RW plane, or just in general.

Just in general, I have no experience with the real aircraft. I'm not saying it's modeled poorly, I would not know if it was. I'm rather questioning why they put such a powerful engine in that airframe. With swept wings I wonder how fast that thing could go?

 

I guess it's made for high-altitude performance. 

One other reason I like the Mirage is that there is a ton of training material on the web.  You can see how real pilots fly it and fly it the same and it is very similar.  Even the go-around dirty is right smack on the numbers.

 

Edit:  Here's one source: 

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuELHjNU37IjbodpTKGM6MQ

Just in general, I have no experience with the real aircraft. I'm not saying it's modeled poorly, I would not know if it was. I'm rather questioning why they put such a powerful engine in that airframe. With swept wings I wonder how fast that thing could go?

 

 

Remember, this is a model of an aftermarket conversion - done by Rocket Engineering in Spokane, WA, just as the RealAir Turbine Duke is.  There are limitations, but when flown the way the plane was designed to be flown the advantages can outweigh the disadvantages.  Basically, you take off, climb as rapidly as possible into the flight levels where the turbine's advantages are not limited by the airframe, and go places.

 

Down low, the plane is woefully inefficient and airframe limited.  It's not a plane you'd cruise along in at 8,000'.

 

 

I can never find that stuff so, no, didn't do that. If I could get them I might give it yet another shake.

 

 

PM Bert and I'm sure he can get you a copy.  Among other things, it puts DME displays on the G500 for both nav radios..

 

Scott