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Well i have started editing TOPCATs figures to match my LIDO charts. who else here has done this? i only fly to payware airports so haven't got all the FSX database to do lol

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Well i have started editing TOPCATs figures to match my LIDO charts. who else here has done this? i only fly to payware airports so haven't got all the FSX database to do lol

 

http://www.topcatsim.com/forum/

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There has not been a post in that forum since January 18, 2015.

Can't have discussions there if everyone is posting TOPCAT/PFPX threads elsewhere, eh?

 

If you build it, they will come.

 

I'll make you all a deal. You post a thread over there, link to it here and I won't get on people's cases for off topic posts. Nobody is doing anybody a favor by posting TOPCAT/PFPX posts in a decentralized fashion.

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Old topic but i think TOPCAT is dead, as i have been waiting over 3 weeks to get my account approved. But i'll mention my query here. Does everyone install the latest airac for TOPCAT each month? because whats happening is everytime i change the airports TORA ASDA etc its getting wiped with new airac update. I have tried everything to backup my database but it keeps wiping it.

 

Is there an actual need to update TOPCAT but rather update the airports yourself?

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Is there an actual need to update TOPCAT but rather update the airports yourself?

 

Yeah, because certified TORA/ASDA/etc changes. Honestly, I'd default to the source your nav data provider is using rather than wherever you got the information.

 

Why do you think it needs to be changed?

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Does everyone install the latest airac for TOPCAT each month? because whats happening is everytime i change the airports TORA ASDA etc its getting wiped with new airac update. I have tried everything to backup my database but it keeps wiping it.

Is there an actual need to update TOPCAT but rather update the airports yourself?

Vernon

I have never updated TOPCAT. The Airport and Runway Database in TOPCAT I use is dated 26 Nov 2014 which is from when it was released for the PMDG 77LR and 777F. I didn't ever know it could be updated but it's listed in Navigraph for the current AIRAC. I just don't know what the NO in the TP column means.

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The reason i'm changing is because the TORA, TODA, ASDA is all wrong in TOPCAT compared to my LIDO charts. So i wanted to correct the runway database with my LIDO charts that have the accurate runway figures

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The reason i'm changing is because the TORA, TODA, ASDA is all wrong in TOPCAT compared to my LIDO charts. So i wanted to correct the runway database with my LIDO charts that have the accurate runway figures

 

So instead of having to overwrite it continuously, perhaps it might be useful to let the provider of the nav data know their data is incorrect.

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Like i said that forum is dead! I've been waiting 3 weeks to have my account activated

Thats what i'm asking also, if i update the database myself only payware airports i use! Do i need to update TOPCAT with the latest airac?

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Like i said that forum is dead! I've been waiting 3 weeks to have my account activated

 

I don't recall saying "post in their forums," but that's completely beside the point, because TOPCAT doesn't make the nav data - whoever you update the nav data with does. In my case, that would be Navigraph, so my report would go to: https://www.navigraph.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=5746a78f2e3a8a0814ffc30ada4a6785

 

...and even if you had to go through TOPCAT to get support, they don't use their forum for actual support, they have a page here: http://www.flightsimsoft.com/support/

 

 

 


Thats what i'm asking also, if i update the database myself only payware airports i use! Do i need to update TOPCAT with the latest airac?

 

Updating to the latest data is going to help ensure you have the most accurate data for all the airports it supports. If you're having to update the data, then something is wrong with their data (if you have a verifiable and reliable source, which I would consider LIDO to be, provided the charts you're referencing are current).

 

So, you can continue to overwrite bad data each time you update your nav data, or you can alert the provider to the discrepancy once and likely never have to do it again. I know which one I'd choose.

 

 

 


I just don't know what the NO in the TP column means.

 

From immediately above the TP column:

"AIRAC 1506 cycle - includes navaids, airports, airways and partly terminal procedures (see TP column below)"

(emphasis mine)

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Well in that case i'll get intouch with navigraph and let them know there runway database is wrong compared to lido,

 

Thanks for the links.

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From immediately above the TP column:

 

"AIRAC 1506 cycle - includes navaids, airports, airways and partly terminal procedures (see TP column below)"

 

(emphasis mine)

If it was a snake, it would have bit me. Thanks.

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I doubt Topcat is dead considering it's made by the same people that make PFPX and I don't believe that is dead.... :)

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If it was a snake, it would have bit me. Thanks.

 

haha - welcome. If it's any consolation, I was trying to write a query earlier to find closed items in a database and was struggling with a condition where any number of date values entered into different fields could potentially mark something as closed.

 

...and then I found a field that contains an Open/Closed/In Progress value.

 

SELECT *
FROM tblOfThings
WHERE Status Like "*Closed*";
 
Facepalm. At least it's Friday...
 

 

I doubt Topcat is dead considering it's made by the same people that make PFPX and I don't believe that is dead.... :)

 

He's referring to their TOPCAT forum - not the product.

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Vernon

 

On the most basic level such as runway length, how can we be certain what is correct to use in FSX. Assume Navigraph has the correct length and TOPCAT is updated with that data. Is that the runway length of the addon airport. How do you even determine the length of a runway at a payware airport.

 

Several years ago I was setting up for a takeoff at KOAK runway 30. FSX, TOPCAT, and the Airport Diagram all showed different lengths. Plus there was the addon length. Which was the correct one to use. If a payware or freeware airport is used does FSX in the Map section show it or does it still shown the FSX default airport?

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From Navigraph

 

Hi Vernon,

we don´t update the "intersections", "clear/stopways", "obstacles" or the "eosids" - only the "airports" and the "runways" and therefore the difference. This parts are from the TopCat developer and Christian doesn´t update these files either - sorry!

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we don´t update the "intersections", "clear/stopways", "obstacles" or the "eosids" - only the "airports" and the "runways" and therefore the difference. This parts are from the TopCat developer and Christian doesn´t update these files either - sorry!

 

At the end of the day, this really doesn't have much of anything to do with PMDG products other than you can use it to get perf numbers for our stuff. Getting TOPCAT to behave is a FlightSimSoft issue. Perhaps they'll have better information.

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VernonOn the most basic level such as runway length, how can we be certain what is correct to use in FSX. Assume Navigraph has the correct length and TOPCAT is updated with that data. Is that the runway length of the addon airport. How do you even determine the length of a runway at a payware airport.Several years ago I was setting up for a takeoff at KOAK runway 30. FSX, TOPCAT, and the Airport Diagram all showed different lengths. Plus there was the addon length. Which was the correct one to use. If a payware or freeware airport is used does FSX in the Map section show it or does it still shown the FSX default airport?

 

 

Very true! But still its nice to have all the figures matching :)

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