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KCRQ DME Missing

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This is the first time I've come across something like this but its been confirmed by a couple of others.

 

The DME signal for the ILS rwy 24 at KCRQ is missing.  You can pick up the LOC and GS.

 

I'm running Prepard3D v3 and have tried with both the A2A C182 and the Turbine Duke but the issue is AC independent I believe.  As I said a couple of others have confirmed the issue over at PilotEdge.

 

Is there a way to edit or update the airport nav data files? Any other suggestions on how to fix the issue?

 

Thanks

I think you could use Scruffy Duck's airport design editor to add it - but I'm not sure how. Best to start over at the FSDeveloper forums

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/categories/scenery-design-airport-design.29/

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I fly our CRQ regularly (in real life). I can't remember where last time I used DME :) I removed DME from my airplane two years ago and install GNS430W. GPS provides all fixes you need for any approach

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Can confirm that there is no DME in the current data for RW 24.

 

Maybe you can use ScruffyDucks airport editor or you can decompile the corresponding .bgl file and add the DME information. That's what I did some time ago to add some navigation data.

 

KCRQ is inside the file APX16200.bgl and you can decompile that into an xml-file with ScruffyDucks decompiler (http://www.scruffyduck.org/download/i/mark_dl/u/4012602701/4609204440/Bgl2Xml%20160.zip).

 

Inside of that XML finde the airport, here is the original part for the ILS/DME 24:

         <Ils
            lat="33.1268276274204"
            lon="-117.288922816515"
            alt="100.888M"
            heading="259.119995117188"
            frequency="108.700"
            end="SECONDARY"
            range="50017.0M"
            magvar="-14"
            ident="ICRQ"
            width="6"
            name="ILS 24"
            backCourse="TRUE">
            <GlideSlope
               lat="33.1300305202603"
               lon="-117.275864034891"
               alt="100.888M"
               pitch="3.2"
               range="50017.0M"/>
         </Ils>

And here is the DME added:

         <Ils
            lat="33.1268249452114"
            lon="-117.2889085114"
            alt="100.888M"
            heading="259.119995117188"
            frequency="108.700"
            end="SECONDARY"
            range="50017.0M"
            magvar="-14"
            ident="ICRQ"
            width="6"
            name="ILS/DME 24"
            backCourse="TRUE">
            <GlideSlope
               lat="33.13003487885"
               lon="-117.275844812393"
               alt="100.888M"
               pitch="3.2"
               range="50017.0M"/>
            <Dme
               lat="33.1262432411313"
               lon="-117.28874489665"
               alt="100.888M"
               range="50017.0M"/>
         </Ils>

After adding the new data you can use the BGL compiler (incuded in the P3D SDK) and rebuild the .bgl file.

 

Just replace it within the corresponding P3D-folder and the DME should be there :wink: (don't forget to backup of course).

 

You can also use the tools provided on this site to update the NavData to the latest AIRAC: http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html

There is an installer provided which will also add the DME to KCRQ :smile:  (but read the FAQ, because it has other consequences as well).

 

Good luck!

 

Marc

Marc Weber

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Wow Marc!  Thanks for the info I'll give it a try and see if I can get it fixed!

but read the FAQ, because it has other consequences as well

 

Note that most of them do not apply to ILS/Rwy regional updates, but only to VOR/NDB regular navaid updates as provided in the World navaids package . Will have to clarify the FAQ. Thanks for pointing that.

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