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During every flight in the T7, I always get sound warning "ALTIMETER SETTING", I set both EFIS panel is the QNH value to specify PFSX (DEP & APP), I also suggest the correct TRANS ALT values in, i'm flying with LNAV and VNAF and change in MCP the ALTITUDE on time. even if I B pressure warning is to continue the 30 seconds I wants to know what I can do about it please?

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Just to check the most basic solution, you are clicking the button for STD and not just setting the number to standard, correct?

 

-stefan strandberg

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I wants to know what I can do about it please?

I can't tell from your post if you are doing this or not. Press VNAV button on 1/3 enter your transition altitude on line 3. Press NEXT PAGE twice to 3/3. Press to the right of FORECAST. On the next page enter the transition level on line 1. When you roll the MCP altitude above your transition altitude press the STD button. When you roll the MCP altitude below your transition level, set the current altimeter and press the STD button.

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Hi,

 

Clear up a doubt please, is there really a sound for the altimeter setting? I cannot recall having heard it ever.

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Hi,

 

Clear up a doubt please, is there really a sound for the altimeter setting? I cannot recall having heard it ever.

 

I actually have no idea, come to think about it.  OP: are you using fs2crew or something else maybe?  Your original post is a little unclear, maybe you could explain a bit more what you mean.

 

Thanks,

 

-stefan strandberg

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The "altimeter setting" nag is RAAS talking to you. I think it defaults to a transition altitude/level of 10000, so if you're flying in the US, you'll hear the warning between 10000 and 18000. You need to go into the RAAS settings to set the transition level or, as I've done, just disable the warning altogether.

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During every flight in the T7, I always get sound warning "ALTIMETER SETTING", I set both EFIS panel is the QNH value to specify PFSX (DEP & APP), I also suggest the correct TRANS ALT values in, i'm flying with LNAV and VNAF and change in MCP the ALTITUDE on time. even if I B pressure warning is to continue the 30 seconds I wants to know what I can do about it please?

I think this is an RAAS aural warning. You can configure that in the addons menu in FSX. There are two check boxes for altimeter setting warnings.

 

BTW, is there a reason for posting in an unusual font? It's perfectly readable in the full site format, but I first saw your thread in the mobile version of AVSIM on my phone and it was rendered as a very fine script, unreadable in that format.

edti, Walter beat me to it

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Yes RAAS, it makes sense. I unchecked the altimeters boxes so I forgot what it does.

There is no point in getting a fixed value warning when your transition altitudes/levels differ from one airport to the other.
Especially on a long hauler where you often fly from one country to another.

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Thank you all very much for replying

 

BTW, is there a reason for posting in an unusual font? It's perfectly readable in the full site format, but I first saw your thread in the mobile version of AVSIM on my phone and it was rendered as a very fine script, unreadable in that format

You're absolutely right, sorry for doing it...​

 

Just to check the most basic solution, you are clicking the button for STD and not just setting the number to standard, correct?

 

Here my old setting

Myoldsettings.png

 

Here after clicking on STD

AfterclickingonSTD.png

 

The button is still on HPA position

ScreenHunter_517Jan.3119.17.png

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Are you getting the call while still parked at the gate/stand?  You wouldn't have STD set on the ground for sure, only above the transition altitude.  Also, have you checked RAAS as suggested?

 

-stefan

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Hi Stefan, that is right, the call is only during the flight on cruise altitude.

I only received the warning in the old settings, but I have not flown pressed with STD!

Here my RAAS settings

RAASsettings.png

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If I'm reading you correctly, you haven't been using the STD button above the TA/TL.  I'd suggest trying a flight where you press STD rather than just set 1013 or 29.92, and see if that clears it up, although you may have some weirdness with there only being a single Transition entry box in RAAS, which you would need to change when appropriate.  If that doesn't work or you prefer not to deal with that, just uncheck the boxes for "Altimeter Setting" near the upper right of that screenshot.

 

-stefan strandberg

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I'd suggest trying a flight where you press STD rather than just set 1013 or 29.92, and see if that clears it up

Hi Stefan, thanks for helping me, there's still a lot I have to learn, I am yesterday spent the whole night working there, about trans altitude, transition level, QNH, standard height, change of color and STD starters, etc. but I have still more times by reading to understand it properly.

Now i will start a new flight

EHAM24 Q1013 TRANS ALT 3000'

EDDH23 Q1009 TRANS ALT 5000'

FL370

Wind at Hamburg 210/08

Now I'm going to perform STD procedure as I have been told, and after that I will honor raport. I wait a little customizing RAAS...

EHAM24-EDDH23.png

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Stefan, here my expirience

 

Here DEP (green) setting

GreenHPA.png

 

Here HPA value, color change Green to Amber

AMBERHPA.png

 

Then i set HPA to STD

AfterclickingonSTD6e583.png

 

NO SOUND WARNING AT ALL, till i switched a moment STD off, the sound warning appears again.

 

Halfway flight, STD color change from Green to Amber???

STDColorchangetoAmber.png

 

Here the more then perfect approach to EDDH 23

ApproachtoEDDH23Hamburg.png

 

Thanks Stefan, and the others of AVSIM that you have to help me.

Regards, Jaap Mooijer

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You're absolutely right, sorry for doing it...​

No need to apologise, it's impossible to know how every browser and format might render a font.


The main thing is you have the problem resolved.

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Screenshot 1 - Once cleared above 3000 ft press STD. Your Transition Altitude is not set correctly. It should be 3000 in VNAV 1/3.

 

Screenshot 2 - 1013 HPA is amber because you have gone above whatever altitude is set for transition altitude and have not pressed STD.

 

Screenshot 4 - STD has changed to amber because you have descended below the transition level set in the Descent Forecast.

 

Screenshots 4 and 5 - you need to press the STD button to set the Altimeter to 1009 HPA. Once you do that, the STD will disappear and 1009 HPA will appear in green on the PFD. And shutoff the center tank fuel pumps.

 

Do not be concerned with the Transition Altitude at EDDH. It is the Transition Level you should be concerned with and I am guessing it is 6000 ft.

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RAAS is going to get a bit confused if STD is changed a lot.  Here's your basic flow for the barometer setting in flight.

 

1.) While on ground, change the 2 position selector knob to either IN (your pressure would be something like 29.92 for this) or HPA (something like 1013,) depending on your origin location.  Generically speaking, use IN in the USA and HPA everywhere else.  There are exceptions, but that's the short version.

2.) Set barometer to local pressure via either turning the knob or just cheating and pressing "b"

3.) After taking off, during climb, press the button for "STD" when passing the Transition Altitude.

4.) Leave it in STD for cruise and the beginning of your descent

5.) When in cruise, change the 2 position selector to either IN or HPA if it'll be the different format where you're landing than where you took off (i.e. KORD->EGLL or whatever)

6.) When crossing the Transition Level in descent, press the button for "STD" again, and set the altimeter to whatever ATC or your weather program tells you (or just cheat and press "b" again)

7.) Don't hit the STD button anymore, just adjust to match pressure changes during your descent from either changing weather or just different weather at your location.  As this is a sim, don't feel bad about hitting "b" a few more times, mainly when you're starting your final approach.

 

Note that I'm only addressing the barometer setting here and not anything with regards to DH or anything.  Does this clear anything up?

 

Thanks,

 

-stefan strandberg

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Screenshot 1 - Once cleared above 3000 ft press STD. Your Transition Altitude is not set correctly. It should be 3000 in VNAV 1/3.

Thank you Michael, I'm very happy with this lessons.

Coincidentally, on 1-2-16, I thought for the first time as the Arrival TRANSITION ALT of 5000 AT ONCE to complete, so now first fill the Departure TRANSITION ALT 3000' and then change LATER to Arrival TRANSITION ALT to 5000"

I'm going to make this flight again, and I'll try all the advices to apply

 

RAAS is going to get a bit confused if STD is changed a lot. Here's your basic flow for the barometer setting in flight.

Thank you Stefan, for all flight values I look at in PFPX such QNH or ALTITUDE FL370 etc. And airport data as TRANSITION ALT I'm looking at Fly cards.

I'm going to make the same flight more than once and then hope that I can understand your advice, and WILL apply IT.

I printed all your advice and go try them out quietly.

Later I'll report back this.

Thanks to you both, an apology for my language errors, hahaha

Regards, Jaap Mooijer

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so now first fill the Departure TRANSITION ALT 3000' and then change LATER to Arrival TRANSITION ALT to 5000"

At your arrival airport it is called transition level and not transition altitude and at EDDH it is probably 1000 ft. higher than the TA or 6000 ft. Be sure to enter that on the Descent Forecast page.

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At your arrival airport it is called transition level and not transition altitude

Hello Michael, i read on flight chart "Trans Level: By ATC"

It is not possible to read the TRANS LEVEL on a flight chart, or maybe PFPX?

 

I found this on internet: http://www.captainsim.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1346957743/4#4

 

How to calculate flight level: https://airplanemanager.com/flightcalculator.aspx

Is this usable pls?

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Hello Michael, i read on flight chart "Trans Level: By ATC"

It is not possible to read the TRANS LEVEL on a flight chart, or maybe PFPX?

I don't believe PFPX has any TA or TL information anywhere in their reports. Most charts only have "Trans Level: By ATC". Two exceptions that come to mind are VHHH and Japanese airports where the TL is printed on the chart

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Looking at my various charts (including the navigraph lido charts) I only see the TA, not the TL.  For sim purposes when not flying on VATSIM either use the TA + 1000 feet, or use the TA, or if in the US it's FL180.  Right now I'm more worried about getting your flows right than getting the specifics like that correct.  Also, I may be misreading you a bit, but you can set the TL before or during flight.  You don't change anything you set earlier.

 

You set the TA on the "Climb" VNAV page, and you set the TL on the "Forecast" page of the "Descent" VNAV page.  A bit confusing, to be sure.  Does that help at all?  For now though I'd worry less about what the specific correct TA/TL are until you get the hang of where to set them and when to use STD.

 

-stefan strandberg

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For sim purposes when not flying on VATSIM either use the TA + 1000 feet

Hi Stefan, just like Michael mentioned, for TRANS LEVEL use TA + 1000' is possible...

 

But I found at the PMDG 777-Tutorial this example, page 11-1A Jeppesen;

ScreenHunter_524Feb.0218.26.png

 

TA + 2000'

 

I also have to find out how or where exactly to place TRANS LEVEL in FMC...

 

I found a NGX Descent Forecast Tutorial from Kyle Rogers on YouTube about the B738, now i know something more about it, in my case LSL 1 should be FL70 i think, because TA = 5000'

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I also have to find out how or where exactly to place TRANS LEVEL in FMC....

See post #3 sentences 3,4, and 5. Or FCOM2 starting at page 11.43.6.

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I also have to find out how or where exactly to place TRANS LEVEL in FMC....

 

You'll find that field on the descent forecast page.  For future use, you could open FCOM v2 and use Ctrl+F to open FIND widget and enter "transition level" and bam you've got your answer.

 

EDIT or follow Michael's advice.

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