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Carenado CJ2 Few problems

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Great looking aircraft - fps are amazing but I have few questions - anyone seeing this

 

1. Cant get the curtain to slide out of the way to see cabin

2. Not seeing flight level upper right hand corner of mfd

3. No splash light on tail - there is a fake picture of the knob which doe nothing

4. Not sure but where does vs get displayed not seeing anything change in cockpit - I can use my saitek panel to do it but not seeing a readout or knob for it

 

have not done a fms plan  - just some manual heading and vs stuff that worked well but without my saitek I would not have been able to know where to change it in cockpit

 

She is a beauty and will be doing some repaint work on this nothing crazy but nice

 

Any thoughts - thanks Guys

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Richard,

 

The Mode Select Panel (MSP) has 10 buttons directly above the PFD - the bottom right is labeled VS.  Press once to enable Vertical Speed.  The readout of VS is to the right of the Altitude Tape in either PFD.  100 - 15,000 fpm.  You can adjust VS with the VS wheel on the APP (Automatic Pilot Panel) located on the center console aft of the FMS..  The pitch wheel rolls up for DN and rolls down for UP (meaning the nose of the CJ2)

 

Located in front of the APP are three knobs.  CRS  ALT   HDG  Push to select, turn left or right.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Regards,

Ray

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Maybe run a spell checker next time before posting? =P

 

LOL - thats the best you can offer move along

 

 

Richard,

 

The Mode Select Panel (MSP) has 10 buttons directly above the PFD - the bottom right is labeled VS.  Press once to enable Vertical Speed.  The readout of VS is to the right of the Altitude Tape in either PFD.  100 - 15,000 fpm.  You can adjust VS with the VS wheel on the APP (Automatic Pilot Panel) located on the center console aft of the FMS..  The pitch wheel rolls up for DN and rolls down for UP (meaning the nose of the CJ2)

 

Located in front of the APP are three knobs.  CRS  ALT   HDG  Push to select, turn left or right.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Regards,

Ray

 

Thanks Ray I will look into your suggestions - you able to open curtain and see tail light splash at night

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Richard,

 

First, make sure you have mouse clicked on your active monitor where you are viewing the VC.

 

Then . . . .

 

Move around the curtain slowly with your mouse and watch for the pointer to turn into a hand with one finger. Once you find that spot - it should be a very large area - one left click of the mouse should open the curtain.

 

You can right click on your active window screen. select Cockpit, slide over to the right and down to Back View to see the cabin. You can also select Passenger seats using this method.

 

Don't forget to try your mouse scroll wheel to operate anything that moves.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

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Great looking aircraft - fps are amazing but I have few questions - anyone seeing this

 

 

3. No splash light on tail - there is a fake picture of the knob which doe nothing

 

 

She is a beauty and will be doing some repaint work on this nothing crazy but nice

 

Any thoughts - thanks Guys

I'm pretty sure the CJ2 did not have a Tail Flood Light. That came with s/n 300 up when the CJ2+ came out. That will be why it has the panel plug. See pics from the Flight Safety PTMs.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

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I'm pretty sure the CJ2 did not have a Tail Flood Light. That came with s/n 300 up when the CJ2+ came out. That will be why it has the panel plug. See pics from the Flight Safety PTMs.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

 

Thanks I was thinking it didn't come with tail light when I saw plug - so thats why oh well I like those guess we dont have it on this

 

Found out when I turn the altitude knob in aircraft works fine - but when I turn knob on saitek multi panel it doesnt change visually on tape but its doing it so thats the problem - using fms it wont matter -  all other knobs on panel seem to be working

 

It worked perfectly went to altitudes higher or lower so thinking a real plan should be nice

 

Bert can probablly fix that visual altitude not changing with a fix for my saitek panel - hes really good at that - hint hint Bert

 

As for curtain I did what you mentioned - I see the finger but pushing left mouse button does not open it - all other carenados worked except for this one - does it work for you ? thank you

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Sorry Rich, do not have the plane..

 

You will if not I will buy it for you - I owe you one  :wink:

 

Its great - luv it

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Richard,

 

On the white Annunciator lights. The CJ2 has 'Thrust Attenuators' instead of Thrust Reversers' These are those paddle looking things at the back to the engine nacelles used to deflect thrust when on the ground. That was the cheap method when you don't have a Ground Idle position switch or FADEC which fixes everything to do with thrust.

 

The white light is normal at times during startup and when you are moving the throttles to taxi. When in flight the TA are Stored and the light should go out.

 

See the text from the manual.

 

I don't know about the Ground Idle, but I suspect they go together here. This CJ2 does have a Ground Idle switch just forward of the throttles.Put

it in Normal.

 

Best Regards,

 

Ray

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Richard,

 

On the white Annunciator lights. The CJ2 has 'Thrust Attenuators' instead of Thrust Reversers' These are those paddle looking things at the back to the engine nacelles used to deflect thrust when on the ground. That was the cheap method when you don't have a Ground Idle position switch or FADEC which 

 

 

 

 

Just noticed my spell checker is not working on avsim - no idea why - hmm

 

Thanks I was at cruise altitude and they dont go out as for ground idle switch not seeing where that is

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Richard,

 

You might want to make a quick walkthrough of the Startup checklist. Sounds like you need to press the STOW buttons for the thrust attenuators. The white lights are 'advisory' in nature.

 

This CJ2 has a Ground Idle switch located on the Pressurization panel to help keep the plane from overspeeding when taxiing. The Thrust Attenuators basically do the job of putting the engines in ground idle, because the Williams Rolls engines could not be brought down to a low enough thrust level to avoid riding the brakes during ground movements.

 

The CJ2+ has a nice upgrade to FADEC engines and they thrashed the Thrust Attenuators from S/N 300 on for the CJ2 production. The white light in the lower right corner of the Annunciator Panel is "Ground Idle"

 

Regards,

 

Ray

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Great looking aircraft - fps are amazing but I have few questions - anyone seeing this

 

1. Cant get the curtain to slide out of the way to see cabin

2. Not seeing flight level upper right hand corner of mfd

3. No splash light on tail - there is a fake picture of the knob which doe nothing

4. Not sure but where does vs get displayed not seeing anything change in cockpit - I can use my saitek panel to do it but not seeing a readout or knob for it

 

gave not done a fms plan  - just some manual heading and vs stuff that worked well but without my saitek I would not have been able to know where to change it in cockpit

 

She is a beauty and will be doing some repaint work on this nothing crazy but nice

 

Any thoughts - thanks Guys

Thanks for the first impressions. We seem to have a similar tendency to buy these birds without hesitation. Looking forward to some pictures. How about the FMS, please post findings once you had a moment to try it out.

PS: I chime in in buying one for Bert for some improvements :-)

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Richard,

 

You might want to make a quick walkthrough of the Startup checklist. Sounds like you need to press the STOW buttons for the thrust attenuators. The white lights are 'advisory' in nature.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

 

Ok Ray thank you Buddy

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Richard are the fps better than the C550?

 

Do you mean 550 ? fps on CJ2  are as good as stock aircraft - its smooth - better than Hawker and I thought it was pretty good

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Do you mean 550 ? fps on CJ2  are as good as stock aircraft - its smooth - better than Hawker and I thought it was pretty good

Richard,

 

I think he is asking you to compare the FPS of the CJ2 with the Carenado S/II S550 Citation. I would guess the CJ2 is a lot more efficient than the Caerando S550. But we have so many mods hanging on the S550 that it is being dragged down even more so than the poor coding.

 

The CJ2 is much better optimized and we will have some comparison FPS once we have time to actually get some flying time in.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

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Richard,

 

I think he is asking you to compare the FPS of the CJ2 with the Carenado S/II S550 Citation. I would guess the CJ2 is a lot more efficient than the Caerando S550. But we have so many mods hanging on the S550 that it is being dragged down even more so than the poor coding.

 

The CJ2 is much better optimized and we will have some comparison FPS once we have time to actually get some flying time in.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

 

Ah thanks Ray I think the CJ2 is one of the best Carenado's on fps they have made - still early but thats what I am seeing - smooth 

 

Found the ground idle switch just above the throttle near the middle just to the left - as for the left and right Attenuator lights will go off after throttle advanced for take off - have to find Attenuator switch it needs to be in auto for this to work 

 

Still cant get curtain to move - tried man times - just the finger showing but does not work when pressing muse button - do you have this bird yet - does it work for you ?

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Hi guys,

 

I'm back in the cockpit now in the CJ2 :wink:

I hope it's worth and carenado has increased to qualitat from the avionics sys. If not, there are guys here in the forum that can improve the avionic sys :smile: the same as in S550. 

 

Thanks "300ph.GT", Richard and Ray for the first impressions, it helped me to make a decision.

 

Cheers Janek

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Hello Janek,

 

It is good to hear from you. I'm glad to hear that you are flying the CJ2,

 

Regards,

Ray

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Ah thanks Ray I think the CJ2 is one of the best Carenado's on fps they have made - still early but thats what I am seeing - smooth 

 

Found the ground idle switch just above the throttle near the middle just to the left - as for the left and right Attenuator lights will go off after throttle advanced for take off - have to find Attenuator switch it needs to be in auto for this to work 

 

Still cant get curtain to move - tried man times - just the finger showing but does not work when pressing muse button - do you have this bird yet - does it work for you ?

Good Morning Richard,

 

I have no idea why the curtain won't open for you. Crazy system, these click spots. I have no problem with mine. See screenshot for clickspot area. Comes with sounds effects as the curtain slides open and closed.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

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Good Morning Richard,

 

I have no idea why the curtain won't open for you. Crazy system, these click spots. I have no problem with mine. See screenshot for clickspot area. Comes with sounds effects as the curtain slides open and closed.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

 

Good morning Ray

 

Thank you much appreciated - try it out tonight

 

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Found Attenuator switch its just above fms in the middle area - center panel

 

Found the ground idle switch just above the throttle  in the middle area

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Found Attenuator switch its just above fms in the middle area - center panel



Found the ground idle switch just above the throttle in the middle area

 

Even if Carenado did NOTHING else to improve the quality of their documentation, it would still be MARVELOUS if they would include a simple map showing switch/control/instrument locations for their more complex aircraft.  Then users wouldn't have to play this tedious searching game on every new aircraft.

 

Good luck Rich,

 

Scott

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1. I can't increase/decrease the altitude in 1000 steps. The altitude selector allows 100 steps only.
2. When I switch the plane to cold and dark and I turn on the batteries the screens are dimmed very dark. There is a BRT/DIM knob, but it can't be clicked. Does anyone know how to dim it more bright?

3. As typical the manual for the aircraft is very sparse. Who knows how to control the speed? I can't find any autothrottle button.

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1. I can't increase/decrease the altitude in 1000 steps. The altitude selector allows 100 steps only.

2. When I switch the plane to cold and dark and I turn on the batteries the screens are dimmed very dark. There is a BRT/DIM knob, but it can't be clicked. Does anyone know how to dim it more bright?

3. As typical the manual for the aircraft is very sparse. Who knows how to control the speed? I can't find any autothrottle button.

 

Not home at the moment there is no auto throttle switch in this aircraft in real life all manual use of throttle thats why I stated keep an eye on it

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