May 18, 201610 yr Hi folks, First let me say that I installed X-Plane this week (after trying it earlier in the year and not being so impressed) and this time round, with some commitment to setting it up properly and getting some of the amazing freeware addons in place, I'm loving it! Here's my question to the X-Plane gurus;- I've downloaded a few addon airports that come with a base photoscenery layer, within and around the airport. KSAN from the .org is a good example. I'm not personally too keen on the photo layer, and was wondering whether it is possible to remove this layer, and just have the objects etc ? I tried removing the "Tiles" folder from KSAN (within the KSAN sub-folder) as this appears to have the photo images in, but when I loaded the sim I got an error saying that "files were missing". Thanks is advance for any help. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
May 18, 201610 yr You should be able to load the KSAN scenery into WED editor, "hide" the orthophoto layers (click the little "eyeballs off"), re-save the file and Export Scenery Pack. That should take you down to base mesh. i7-4790K o/c @ 4.8 GHz, Corsair H-110 liquid cooler, 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RAM, MSI Maximus VII Hero mobo Samsung Pro 512 GB SSD Corsair GFX Hydro GTX-1080 8 GB, (2) 4TB hybrid HDs Win 10 (1607), X-Plane 10.51r2 and X-Plane 11.01b1
May 18, 201610 yr Author Hmm, I think the next step will be to find out what WED editor is then.... :smile: *X-Plane Newbie alert* Thanks, I'll go do some digging! ------------------------------------ EDIT: Found and installed WED Editor. Imported Apt.dat and dsf file (I'm a fast learner :wink:)... No problem opening the ground images and "hiding" them (thanks). I then saved, and then "Exported Scenery Pack", but I hen got an error message stating "there are two ATC route nodes, these should be merged". (this must be an issue with the original downloaded airport, as I've not touched anything ATC related!). Any idea how I'd do that? Thanks. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
May 18, 201610 yr Hmm, I think the next step will be to find out what WED editor is then.... :smile: *X-Plane Newbie alert* Thanks, I'll go do some digging! ------------------------------------ EDIT: Found and installed WED Editor. Imported Apt.dat and dsf file (I'm a fast learner :wink:)... No problem opening the ground images and "hiding" them (thanks). I then saved, and then "Exported Scenery Pack", but I hen got an error message stating "there are two ATC route nodes, these should be merged". (this must be an issue with the original downloaded airport, as I've not touched anything ATC related!). Any idea how I'd do that? Thanks. Probably new WED version is more strict on layout checks. Anyway merging the two nodes is not difficult, you find them in the lower right window when you perform the duplicate check. CTRL+SHIFT+M will merge them when highlighted. Let's hope it's not the first of many error... Be aware that WED is quite addictive, after discovering how easy was to change and editing scenery I have now scored more time developing new scenery than flying. Not good... Riccardo Viecca
May 19, 201610 yr Author Probably new WED version is more strict on layout checks. Anyway merging the two nodes is not difficult, you find them in the lower right window when you perform the duplicate check. CTRL+SHIFT+M will merge them when highlighted. Let's hope it's not the first of many error... Be aware that WED is quite addictive, after discovering how easy was to change and editing scenery I have now scored more time developing new scenery than flying. Not good... Thank you, that's helpful. (I didn't have a clue how to merge the duplicates!). I'll soon find out whether are more errors that WED won't let through.... in which case I'll probably give up with this particular airport :smile: Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
May 19, 201610 yr Bill, Which KSAN are you using? I tried KSAN-v1.01-Xplane10 by MisterX6 (very nicely done) but it crashed CTD Xplane10) each of my flights? So, wondering if Photo scenery is causing a problem? Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
May 20, 201610 yr Author Bill, Which KSAN are you using? I tried KSAN-v1.01-Xplane10 by MisterX6 (very nicely done) but it crashed CTD Xplane10) each of my flights? So, wondering if Photo scenery is causing a problem? That's the version I'm using (MisterX), Vaughan. No CTD issues this end. I managed to remove the layers, but to be honest, I found that this scenery is really designed to be used with the layers, and it didn't look right without them so I added them back. I found that increasing the autogen / ground objects helped the visuals and helped blend the photo layer in with the rest of the scenery. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
May 20, 201610 yr Bill, Thanks for the follow up and additional information. Have a good day. Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
May 20, 201610 yr Sorry to hear that you're having trouble removing the photoscenery, and I agree that there should be an easier way to remove it. I plan on releasing updates for all my older sceneries once X-Plane 10.50 drops. I'll update them to use my library (taxilines, static aircraft, airport vehicles etc..), use the new 10.50 static aircraft/ramp start system, and seperate orthophotos and scenery so users can remove them if they wish.
May 20, 201610 yr Author Sorry to hear that you're having trouble removing the photoscenery, and I agree that there should be an easier way to remove it. I plan on releasing updates for all my older sceneries once X-Plane 10.50 drops. I'll update them to use my library (taxilines, static aircraft, airport vehicles etc..), use the new 10.50 static aircraft/ramp start system, and seperate orthophotos and scenery so users can remove them if they wish. Oh wow no apology necessary MisterX, I should be thanking you as I have only recently installed X-Plane and I have been blown away by the quality of the 4 or 5 US airports of yours that I've installed! As above, my main issue with the photolayer I think, was mainly just that I had insufficient autogen/objects set in the sim - once I populated things a little more, the KSAN photolayer looks great. :smile: Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
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