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Good Evening all,

 

I currently have quite a powerful set up that is running my p3d v3.2 smoothly... but I wanted to switch to a bigger screen from my 24" GSYNC, going to a 27" 4K GSYNC.

 

Considering that I will not be running SGSS anymore in 4k, and my current setup (6700K OC and 980Ti OC), will I see a major drop in performance?

Thanks for the feedback!

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I wanted to switch to a bigger screen from my 24" GSYNC, going to a 27" 4K GSYNC... will I see a major drop in performance?

 

I currently have 3 X Acer XB280HK monitors all connected to one 980Ti / i7-4930 @ 4.4Ghz.  If I set the monitors to their native resolution of 3840 X 2160, P3D is a slide show.  When I reduce resolution to 2560 X 1440, I can get 15 - 30 fps most places, which I can accept.  Don't know if that helps or not.

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Running Samsung 40 inch on 4gb 980. No performance problems except it still needs some AA added. I thought I would not need any sgss on a 4k but it does. I go no higher than 2x sgss.

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You might be interested in this spreadsheet I put together ... specifically compare Test # 18 with Test # 19 ... going from 1080p to 2160p (4K) I got about a 21% decrease in FPS (from 51 FPS to 40 FPS).

 

Cheers, Rob.

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With a nVidia graphic card, you can always "simulate" the higher resolution using DSR. This will easily already tell you now, on the smaller screen, if you will loose any performance or how your 980Ti will perform generally using the 4K resolution.

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I think, for me anyways, is the whole point of going 4k was to go bigger. Bigger is better.  :-)

 

 

Cheers

 

6700k @4.8

2 x gtx 970's in SLI

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Thanks guys!

 

I will install a second 980ti in SLI and I think that it should be good considering I'm gonna go on a 28" monitor 4k. Does that sound good? I was thinking of putting two 1080, but so far, people have been reporting the 980 is just as good with p3d. and mine is Overclocked on liquid cooling.

 

Thanks for the feedback guys!

 

While I'm at it... any specific settings for the SLI?

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Because I was able to reduce my AA requirements (I completely removed SGSS with better overall IQ than I had with 4XSGSS when I was in HD)) my performance increased going to 4K. I'd suggest you make the move before you invest in another GPU & SLI. One spot where I took a hit was Screenshot/video recording. With FRAPS, screen grabs at 4k cause a brief pause and video at 4K is kind of a pig. Fortunately, FRAPS provides a 1/2 size option for video, so I can record at 1280p with minimal impact while still simming at 4K.

 

As another poster has suggested - I'm also of the camp 'bigger is better'. Seems to me a waste to fly in 4K on a 28" monitor (the pixel density is huge!). Go BIG! I use a 58" 4k screen and my VC is pretty much real-world sized.

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Well, with 58" and 4K you get a ppi of 75. Sure, you have the huge screen, but with FullHD on a 24" screen, you already get 91ppi. So, personally, I would prefer a higher pixel density over the sheer size of the screen, but this is individual, I agree.

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As we both know, PPI is kind of misleading. What really matters is PPD - Pixels Per Degree - which is dependent on both PPI and the distance your eye is from the screen.

 

With my set-up, (58" 4K screen), I must be at least 45" away from the screen before it can be considered a retinal (theoretically perfect viewing) display. But frankly, my old eyes don't resolve like a pre-schooler's, so at 32" - 36" or so (which is about where my eye is in relation to the screen) I certainly can't see those individual pixels. :smile:

 

For the OP's proposed 27" 4K monitor, the minimum viewing distance for retinal viewing is 21". Beyond that distance, he can afford to go bigger without any discernible loss of image quality.

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Thanks for the feedback guys! ;)

Appreciate your suggestions!

 

Any specific or recommended settings besides getting all the AA off from NVI? How about the settings inside P3d?

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Just from my own personal experience, Bigger is much, much better !!  

 

I have three 4k's to choose from, a 28",55" and 78" curved. 

 

I definitely love the Samsung 78" curved, especially for simming. Amazing color, performance and immersion. We got a great deal and us it for everything living room.

 

However the price is absurd,  $13,000 CAN.   :fool:

 

A 55" to 65" 4k (curved a bonus) I think gives an exceptional gaming experience at a reasonable price.

 

I've tried 3 monitor setups and think they're horrible. Even when large enough to install vertically.

Ultra wide screens are not much better.

 

Cheers

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However the price is absurd,  $13,000 CAN.

 

Ouch, that's kinda high for 4K ... I was just in BestBuy the other day and they had stacks of very nice Sony 4K 30/60Hz - 75" on sale for $3200.  Also found a selection of 4K movies (i.e. Deadpool and more) ... also found cheaper LG 27" 4K 60Hz for $499.  Seems 4K is in full swing for mass market ... I would imagine come holiday season 4K's will be even less.  Heck even Netflix has some good titles in 4K (Jessica Jones, House of Cards, Blacklist...)

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Ouch, that's kinda high for 4K ... I was just in BestBuy the other day and they had stacks of very nice Sony 4K 30/60Hz - 75" on sale for $3200. Also found a selection of 4K movies (i.e. Deadpool and more) ... also found cheaper LG 27" 4K 60Hz for $499. Seems 4K is in full swing for mass market ... I would imagine come holiday season 4K's will be even less. Heck even Netflix has some good titles in 4K (Jessica Jones, House of Cards, Blacklist...)

 

Cheers, Rob.

About a month ago while picking up a new evolution kit for the samsung 78", I had to walk my wife over to see the shocking price for our TV. Yes it was $13,000. :shok:

I see today it's on sale for $9,999. CAN . Still crazy.

 

There are many good deals on 50" + 4k tv's out there and more and more content coming all time from Netflix, youtube and gaming titles.

 

Thanks Rob for your uploads in 4k !!

 

Cheers

 

This is crazy too !! Samsung 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player $599.

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Now you're making me re-think our possible move to Vancouver. 

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Good Evening all,

 

I currently have quite a powerful set up that is running my p3d v3.2 smoothly... but I wanted to switch to a bigger screen from my 24" GSYNC, going to a 27" 4K GSYNC.

 

Considering that I will not be running SGSS anymore in 4k, and my current setup (6700K OC and 980Ti OC), will I see a major drop in performance?

Thanks for the feedback!

 

Radial, you have about the same setup I do- I6700K /  Zotac Amp Extreme GTX 980 Ti / 16 gigs ram / 43" Sony Bravia 4K .

You should be able to easily run p3d at 4k with most setting maxed out at 40-80 FPS over addon scenery.

Over default scenery with default p3d setting I've seen fps reaching 230 fps at 4k.

Adding a second card would seem to me to be overkill.

Yes, no need for any AA at 4k, see pic below I took at 4k on my old rig using an Nvidia 660 GTX with no AA enabled.

 

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This picture is a keeper, great shot and nice how this high resolution looks like.

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Thanks guy! Great Feedback!

 

You use no AA at all or simply no NVI SGSS and some AA within P3d?

 

Thanks!

 

Gio

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Thanks guy! Great Feedback!

 

You use no AA at all or simply no NVI SGSS and some AA within P3d?

 

Thanks!

 

Gio

 Simply no SGSS - which is the traditional frame rate killer in clouds/particulate effects. I still use the P3D AA offerings and a few other settings in NI

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Thanks guy! Great Feedback!

 

You use no AA at all or simply no NVI SGSS and some AA within P3d?

 

Thanks!

 

Gio

 

Gio, I'm not using any AA settings at all in the Nvidia control panel but I might have AA enabled in the sim itself. I will check this weekend and get back with you.

My point was is that you don't need any other AA enhancements at 4k from the NV Control panel.

 

Glad you like the pic AnkH!

Once you see your sim at 4k- it cannot be unseen and the damage is done. There is no going back to lesser resolutions, at least that's how it was in my case.

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Thanks guys!!

Looking forward to the settings when you have a minute! That picture looked absolutely amazing. If you could share what you use on NVI and P3d I would really appreciate it!

 

Gio, I'm not using any AA settings at all in the Nvidia control panel but I might have AA enabled in the sim itself. I will check this weekend and get back with you.

My point was is that you don't need any other AA enhancements at 4k from the NV Control panel.

 

Glad you like the pic AnkH!

Once you see your sim at 4k- it cannot be unseen and the damage is done. There is no going back to lesser resolutions, at least that's how it was in my case.

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Once you see your sim at 4k- it cannot be unseen and the damage is done. There is no going back to lesser resolutions, at least that's how it was in my case.

That's what ice been wondering about.

 

I use a 65 inch full hd tv at the moment. Don't really like it, for two,reasons:

Not enough resolution

Picture looks 'cartoon-like'

 

This is compared to my 27 inch nec graphics monitor, which I've been back flying with today.

 

My question:

For those who've flown with a decent sized TV (not monitor) in 4K, how did the picture QUALITY compare with a good computer monitor? I'm thinking colour gamut, anti-aliasing as well as detail which I'm sure is pretty good.

 

See, with the 65 inch (cheap) full hd tv, I notice the aa problems at airports and struggle to get the realistic-looking colours that I can get with my nec.

 

The second part of the question - do you need to get a high end 4K to to get this experience? I've been looking at Samsung, and the 9 series is supposed to be good for games. Anyone know if it would make a substantial difference getting this over the 7 series for P3d?

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My 4k Samsung TV's, 55" and 78" look absolutely amazing.

 

My ASUS 27" 4k is nice but picture quality doesn't compare.

I would have had to go with a more expensive IPS monitor to get the colors I do from the Samsung tv's. I couldn't find an IPS monitor locally with a VESA mount.

 

4K makes gaming and flightsimming not only possible but look great on a 78". I think that alone says alot.  :-)

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Gio, I have AA enabled in the sim but honestly I can't tell that it makes any difference by turning it on or off.

The frame rates also appear to be unaffected by it being enabled or not.

I've made no changes to NVI or in the Nvidia control panel- all settings in those is "as installed".

I use NVI to manually control my fan speeds which I set at 70% prior to running the sim or any game.

Video card temps stay at 53c or below.

Clearly this shows us that all the AA settings that we used to use at lower resolutions killing our FPS are no longer necessary at 4k.

All the horsepower of you GTX 980 Ti is now being used to display the higher resolution.

You should be able to run 4K easily with your current set up.

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