July 24, 20169 yr Hi folks, flying the J4100, 737NGX and 777 I often follow real timetables. In the advent of the DC-6 I'd like to collect in this thread former DC-6 routings and timetables. Google doesn't find a lot, e.g. http://airwaysnews.com/html/timetable-and-route-maps/european-airlines-timetables-route-maps-and-history http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/264543/1955-klm-routing/ Who can provide more? ==================== (Here part of the content of the second link with Constellation, DC-6, DC-3. Huh, 8 stop-overs from AMS to TYO...) KLM’s Routing in 1955 Northern Summer season service is the following: AMSTERDAM – ASIA – SYDNEY**KL821 Amsterdam – Dusseldorf – Damascus – Karachi – Bangkok – JakartaConstellation, First Class, Day 1, arr 2 days later **KL861 Amsterdam – Geneva – Rome – Cairo – Baghdad – Karachi – Colombo – Bangkok – Manila – TokyoRoyal Super Constellation, First/Tourist Class, Day 1, arr 3 days later **KL823 Amsterdam – Zurich – Rome – Beirut – Karachi – Calcutta – Bangkok – Singapore – JakartaConstellation, SleepAir First Class only, Day 2, arr 2 days later **KL825 Amsterdam – Frankfurt – Cairo – Karachi – Rangoon – Bangkok – JakartaConstellation, Tourist Class, Day 3, arr 2 days later **KL853 Amsterdam – Geneva – Rome – Beirut – Basra – DhahranDC6, First/Tourist Class, Day 3, arr 1 day later **KL827 Amsterdam – Dusseldorf – Rome – Beirut – Karachi – Calcutta – Bangkok – Bangkok – Singapore – JakartaRoyal Super Constellation, SleepAir First/Tourist Class, Day 4, arr 2 days later **KL827 Bangkok – TokyoRoyal Super Constellation, SleepAir First/Tourist Class, Day 6 **KL881 Amsterdam – Geneva – Rome – Cairo – Baghdad – Karachi – Rangoon – BangkokConstellation, SleepAir First Class only, Day 5, arr 2 days later **KL851 Amsterdam – Munich – Rome – Cairo – Abadan – Dhahran – KarachiDC6, First/Tourist Class, Day 6, arr 1 day later **KL843 Amsterdam – Rome – Beirut – Basra – Karachi – Bangkok – Manila – BiakConstellation, Tourist Class, Day 6, arr 3 days later **KL829 Amsterdam – Beirut – Damascus – Karachi – Calcutta – Bangkok – Singapore – JakartaConstellation, SleepAir First Class only, Day 7, arr 2 days later **KL845 Amsterdam – Frankfurt – Rome – Cairo – Karachi – Rangoon – Bangkok – Manila – Biak – SydneyRoyal Super Constellation, SleepAir First/Tourist Class, Day 7, arr 4 days later, night-stop in Karachi and Bangkok **KL828 Jakarta – Singapore – Bangkok – Calcutta – Karachi – Baghdad – Beirut – Rome – AmsterdamRoyal Super Constellation, SleepAir First/Tourist Class, Day 7, arr 1 day later **KL882 Bangkok – Rangoon – Karachi – Beirut – Rome – Geneva – AmsterdamConstellation, SleepAir First Class only, Day 1, arr 1 day later **KL852 Karachi – Dhahran – Baghdad – Cairo – Rome – Munich – AmsterdamDC6, First/Tourist Class, Day 1, arr 1 day later **KL862 Tokyo – Manila – Bangkok – Colombo – Karachi – Cairo – Rome – Geneva – AmsterdamRoyal Super Constellation, SleepAir First/Tourist Class, Day 1, arr 2 days later **KL830 Jakarta – Bangkok – Calcutta – Karachi – Abadan – Cairo – Rome – Dusseldorf – AmsterdamConstellation, SleepAir First Class only, Day 3, arr 1 day later **KL844 Biak – Manila – Bangkok – Rangoon – Karachi – Dhahran – Cairo – Frankfurt – AmsterdamConstellation, Tourist Class, Day 4, arr 1 day later **KL822 Jakarta – Singapore – Bangkok – Calcutta – Karachi – Basra – Beirut – Rome – AmsterdamConstellation, First Class only, Day 4, arr 1 day later **KL824 Jakarta – Singapore – Bangkok – Calcutta – Karachi – Damascus – Beirut – Zurich – AmsterdamConstellation, SleepAir First Class only, Day 5, arr 1 day later **KL846 Sydney – Biak – Manila – Bangkok – Rangoon – Karachi – Cairo – Rome – Frankfurt – AmsterdamRoyal Super Constelation, SleepAir First/Tourist Class, Day 4, arr 3 days later **KL846 Tokyo – Manila – BangkokRoyal Super Constelation, SleepAir First/Tourist Class, Day 5, arr 1 day later **KL854 Dhahran – Basra – Beirut – Rome – Geneva – AmsterdamDC6, First/Tourist Class, Day 4, arr 1 day later Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
July 24, 20169 yr Visit the Everts Air Cargo website and note the locations they serve in Alaska today, that is what I plan to do when the DC-6 comes to P3D. Dan Downs KCRP
July 24, 20169 yr Author Visit the Everts Air Cargo website and note the locations they serve in Alaska today, that is what I plan to do when the DC-6 comes to P3D. Hi Dan, good idea! As well I find the KLM routings interesting. Maybe somebody stores/collects ancient timetables? Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
July 25, 20169 yr This page hosts many vintage timetables: http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/complete.htm
July 29, 20169 yr Author This page hosts many vintage timetables: http://www.timetable...te/complete.htm Thank you, Matthias! Had not found this one, but now we have plenty of timetables. 1954 the DC-7 more & more replaces the DC-6, so 1953/1954 are the timetables in question. Three days to fly AMS-FRA-Rome-CAI-Karachi-Rangoon-BKK-MNL-TKO... OMG... Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
July 29, 20169 yr Commercial Member This page hosts many vintage timetables: http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/complete.htm I was about to point that one out. That's the site that I use for historic routes (the tutorials, in fact, were based off of a timetable I found there, specific to the DC-6). Kyle Rodgers
July 29, 20169 yr Author Maybe more a question for the hangar chat, but ... looking at the down to 45 minute stop-overs in e.g. Shannon at around 1am before crossing the pond: Did the passengers have to leave the aircraft during the refueling? Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
July 29, 20169 yr Commercial Member Did the passengers have to leave the aircraft during the refueling? They do now, but things have naturally changed over time. Airports were extremely different back then, as were the planes. Some stations were just glorified refueling spots, and the ramp was often bare, without the jet-bridges of today. With that in mind, people may have stayed on board on a particularly poor weather day to avoid the rain/cold/wind/etc. Now it's seen as a safety issue, so passengers have to be off. Back then, given how long the flights were, I'm not sure if it was specifically required of them, but many of the passengers seem to have taken the opportunity to run inside to get off of the plane for a bit and to have a meal. Kyle Rodgers
July 29, 20169 yr but many of the passengers seem to have taken the opportunity to run inside to get off of the plane for a bit and to have a meal. I imagine after long hours in a noisy vibrating bouncy machine they bolted to the terminal for a coffee or something stronger. I'm sure the locals didn't miss the opportunity to afford the travelers all nature of products (gift shops). I made a fuel stop at Shannon back in the DC-8 days, and found a terminal bustling with activity and all sorts of tariff free shopping. Dan Downs KCRP
July 29, 20169 yr Author and found a terminal bustling with activity and all sorts of tariff free shopping. ... during daylight yes, but at 1am? I would have tried to oversleep these stops. Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
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