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737 800-900 for P3D not functioning.

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Hello everyone,

737 8-900 base and 6-700 expansion installed into Win 10 (64bit) P3D v3.3.5.17625 is not working for me.  I load just fine but nothing is clickable, the screens are all black, and I was not asked for my license when I installed..  (although I had it installed before so I'm not sure that's an issue).

After installing I loaded a session and the plane sits in a non-functioning state,  Nothing is click-able or drag-able, screens are blank and nothing functions.

I've gone through the README for P3D and followed the advice there by creating a scenario with the 739 and starting from that each time.   Still nothing..  so I follow it a bit more and go through the simconnect installs as noted.

Now, when I start P3D, the load screen sits there for a minute or so then it goes back to the desktop and never enters the aircraft.  At first I thought the program might have just CTD'ed but a clicking on the P3D icon would not restart the sim.  A check of task manager showed that P3D is running, with nothing visible.  After uninstalling the three simcconect programs, it's back to a non-functioning aircraft.. (well, the keyboard commands work, but mouse nor controllers do).

Suggestions?

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I've gone through the README for P3D and followed the advice there by creating a scenario with the 739 and starting from that each time.

 

Looks like it's related to a misinterpretation of the intro manual (setting our aircraft as the default scenario is actually something we ask people to avoid).

 

First - you mentioned already doing this, but just to cover bases - make sure you have the proper SimConnects installed (as listed in the readme file - there are several more in the folder structure than what is needed).

Second - ensure that the aircraft is the only thing loaded into the sim. What this means is that you should check the "Show this Screen at Startup" checkbox, because the default behavior of the sim is to load directly into a flight in the F-22 or F-35 (I forget which). This will cause issues with our products and is something that crept into LM's 3.X releases. It had not done it prior to this. When the sim loads, it should still have the F-22 or F-35 spinning in the little window, but it should load on the runway ready to fly.

Third - ensure that you do not set one of our aircraft as the default aircraft in the sim. If the sim loads and our aircraft loads on the runway, or spinning in the window of the scenario creation screen, then you will see problems. This is a long-standing FSX/ESP/P3D issue.

Fourth - if you have the EMT, uninstall it, or tell it not to touch our aircraft.

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Kyle,

 

Thanks for your help...   First thing this morning I uninstalled all of the simconnect.mis's that I installed last night so that I could get back to the main menu.., which worked..  but the panels, switches, etc still did not.

This morning first thing I reinstalled each of the three .msi files and tried to open P3D.  This time it opened normally asked me for the license for 737!  Starting a scenario has me sitting on a ramp with a fully configurable aircraft!!! (YAY!)  So, I think that this is solved..  but I'll run a flight and check some things to be sure.

As to your points in the above post, I 'did' set the 739 as a default aircraft but I'll change this back.  I had previously checked the "Show this screen at startup" box.

As to the EMT...  I'm not even sure of what that is..  the little bit of searching I have done on this leads me to believe it is some sort of migration tool(?)..  I haven't used anything of the sort..  This was a brand new install of P3D and PMDG.

Lastly, thank you once again for your help!

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As to your points in the above post, I 'did' set the 739 as a default aircraft but I'll change this back.

 

That *should* fix it, but let us know.

 

And yeah, the EMT is a popular migration tool that's out there. Avoid it.

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So far, so good!  (YAY! again)..

About the only niggle I've come across so far is getting my weather display to work..  When I test I get the red lettering for WINDSHEAR on the display, but no indication of weather..  I've stepped my way through the FMC to make sure that things are turned on and it all seems to be set..  but no joy on the display.  I'm reading through different articles from google about getting it to work but so far nothing.

I'll keep after it and thanks again Kyle!

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OK..  It worked for a bit then the same thing happened.   I've tried restart, power-down and restart, and to repair each of the simconnect.msi installations.. with no effect.  It starts p3d normally then goes back to desktop with taskmanager saying that p3d is running..  It must be in stealth mode.. ;-)

Uninstall all three simconnect's and restart p3d.. check.., re-install all three simconnect's and bob's your uncle...  working as it should.

The one thing that I noticed this time was that I wanted to change from a 737-600 to a 737-900 via the f22, (allowing time between each for data loading).. as it went to load the 900 it ctd'ed.  that's when this behavior started again.

I may have to just shut down p3d completely and start from scratch when I want to use a different pmdg aircraft..  Not sure of how to proceed from here.

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I may have to just shut down p3d completely and start from scratch when I want to use a different pmdg aircraft.. Not sure of how to proceed from here.

 

Exactly.  One session is one PMDG aircraft. If you want to change aircraft you have to exit and restart then selecting the desired aircraft.

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Exactly.  One session is one PMDG aircraft. If you want to change aircraft you have to exit and restart then selecting the desired aircraft.

 

I learned to do this with PMDG's aircrafts but actually this is a great rule to all aircrafts. I do it every time I change planes and i never came across with black gauges or any other annoying problem.

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Well, It seems to work alright if I do not change planes...  So I guess we can say RESOLVED for this one. 

Thanks again Kyle. (and everyone)

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One last niggle for this thread...   Can anyone explain to me please, why my FMC is showing "Nav Data out of date" when it shows 'AIRAC-1608  JUL21AUG17/16'?

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One last niggle for this thread...   Can anyone explain to me please, why my FMC is showing "Nav Data out of date" when it shows 'AIRAC-1608  JUL21AUG17/16'?

 

Usually because you're using a date in the sim outside of the active date for the data.

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Usually because you're using a date in the sim outside of the active date for the data.

That's probably it..    I tried to start a new session tonight to check but it's now gone back to the same behavior.  Only this time even removing simconnect made no difference.

 

I click on the icon, the splash screen pops up and sets for a bit then two smaller window open and then close almost immediately and I'm back at the desktop..  yet taskmanager shows it to be running.  I. now, can't get past this point.

 

I'll try disabling crossfire and start working at it from a graphics issue of some sort.  Any other suggestions?

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I click on the icon, the splash screen pops up and sets for a bit then two smaller window open and then close almost immediately and I'm back at the desktop..  yet taskmanager shows it to be running.  I. now, can't get past this point.

 

Usually a trademark of the EMT, but you mentioned that you didn't use it earlier. Must be some other program interacting, unless it's our activation window that is hiding out somewhere (though it usually pops over the sim, and doesn't minimize it).

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Usually a trademark of the EMT, but you mentioned that you didn't use it earlier. Must be some other program interacting, unless it's our activation window that is hiding out somewhere (though it usually pops over the sim, and doesn't minimize it).

I don't know...   I've posted over at P3D to try and get some help there..  Even uninstalling PMDG hasn't helped.  To say that I'm frustrated would be a whopper of an understatement..

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I don't know...   I've posted over at P3D to try and get some help there..  Even uninstalling PMDG hasn't helped.  To say that I'm frustrated would be a whopper of an understatement..

 

Understandable. This is highly odd behavior, however. Installing a simconnect shouldn't cause any issues unless your computer has some other kind of issue.

 

Graphics driver/profile issue perhaps?

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I click on the icon, the splash screen pops up and sets for a bit then two smaller window open and then close almost immediately and I'm back at the desktop.. yet taskmanager shows it to be running. I. now, can't get past this point.

 

You cannot start P3D if the Task Manager shows it still running. It is normal for P3D to take up to a minute to shut down, but if it keeps running then that is a problem on to itself. Use the End Task button in Task Manager to kill the process. See if same problem reoccurs.

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You cannot start P3D if the Task Manager shows it still running. It is normal for P3D to take up to a minute to shut down, but if it keeps running then that is a problem on to itself. Use the End Task button in Task Manager to kill the process. See if same problem reoccurs.

Done this..  And it's not that it keeps running once shut down..,  it's that it never starts up.  Just a splash screen then something happening somewhere that only task manager can see.  I'm not sure of what's happening but I cannot change any parameters or see what may be going on, etc...

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Sorry, you said task manager shows it to be running and i assumed it was P3D.  Now I am confused.  What is it?

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Not sure what there is to be confused about...

 

I try to start P3D and right after the splash screen it goes back to the desktop with p3d nowhere to be found.

 

Starting task manger shows p3d to be running.. But I can't find or access it. The only way to start the startup process over is to select p3d and choose End Task.

 

 

However, before leaving the house this morning I found that by manually going into the Modules directory and removing the references to FSUIPC, it starts normally every time. Looking at the FSUIPC website the heading shows it is OK for p3dv3.3... But the notes say only to 3.2.4 with no further support. I guess I'll have to find a different way to map buttons and switches. I'll test it more tonight.

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We had a simple miscommunication.  Regardless you found the problem and it's possible the FSUIPC module might work by moving the ini to your desktop and letting it build a new ini. If so, then you only need to repair the ini or reset your settings. I have FSUIPC 4.955 that I download a week ago and its performing as expected with P3Dv3.3.5

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We had a simple miscommunication.  Regardless you found the problem and it's possible the FSUIPC module might work by moving the ini to your desktop and letting it build a new ini. If so, then you only need to repair the ini or reset your settings. I have FSUIPC 4.955 that I download a week ago and its performing as expected with P3Dv3.3.5

Thanks for that! I'd rather not use 'bolt-ins' for functionality but FSUIPC has always worked a treat for me... And is like to hang on if possible.

 

As for the miscommunication, probably more so from my end Communicating with others can sometimes be a dicey affair for me because I think a bit sideways sometimes.

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OK..  Back home and off of my phone so these should make a bit more sense...

I'm 99% certain that it's a conflict with FSUIPC and weather calls...  Pete Dowson has made reference to such in a couple of places..  I found http://forum.simflight.com/topic/81933-p3d-v33-ctd-when-fsuipc-4955c-is-enabled/ to be most useful in ferreting out some things and tweaking the .INI   Most notably that there is a newer version of FSUIPC (downloadable from that same forum) that ups it from v4.955c, (on Schirattis site), to v4.955g

Using that newer version and following the other suggestion Pete had seems to have done the trick. (though I could never find the .wx files he referenced.. and I found a couple of the .bin files in different locations instead of just one).

One odd thing however is that in viewing the FSUIPC log from the last unsuccessful attempt to start P3D..  it made reference to the PMDG 739 that I had flown and closed out of the last time it worked properly.  I'm wondering if perhaps something in P3D called for it to load the last flight and not the default???  Who knows.

I'll try some things tonight and see how it goes..  but I sure feel a lot better about this..

Thanks again Kyle and Dan!

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