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Installing the English-US Language Pack and Speech on Win 10

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Quite a few folks have had difficulty getting the US English language pack and speech engine installed.  Part of the problem is that after you install the language pack, you have to do an additional step to install the Speech engine.

 

Here's a link to a site that does a pretty good job of explaining the process. 

 

http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/change-cortanas-voice-windows-10

 

Step 11 is the one where you install the Speech Recognition Engine.  BE SURE TO DO THIS STEP.

 

Steps after 11 set the new language as your default and are not necessary in order to use Pilot2ATC.

 

Hope this helps some of you.

Dave

 

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David,

Sorry for the bother, however, I'm having trouble with P2A recognizing other Windows voices. I completed the instructions in your 2016 post and the only voices that controller tab that are listed are David and Zira the 2 standard Windows 10 voices. I have a number of other voice (i.e. English Canada) added that show up in Settings and in fact will play with other Windows programs. Any ideas? Would I have to download P2A again for the program to pick up these extra voices?

Thanks in advance

Ed

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The voices must be SAPI Desktop voices to work with Pilot2ATC.  Mobile voices, which do work with Cortana, for example, will not work with desktop applications like Pilot2ATC.

Check the voices to be sure they are SAPI 5 Desktop voices.

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On 5/24/2017 at 8:49 AM, Dave-Pilot2ATC said:

The voices must be SAPI Desktop voices to work with Pilot2ATC.  Mobile voices, which do work with Cortana, for example, will not work with desktop applications like Pilot2ATC.

Check the voices to be sure they are SAPI 5 Desktop voices.

I can I verify that the voices are SAPI 5 ?

Bill

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The product description should include the fact that they are SAPI 5 and that they are for desktop rather than Mobile use.

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18 minutes ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said:

The product description should include the fact that they are SAPI 5 and that they are for desktop rather than Mobile use.

Thanks Dave.

 

Bill

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I have been installing as many of the English language packs as possible to see how many voices I can get that are compatible with Pilot2ATC. So far, I have only found 3 that are the SAPI5 versions. The English (United States) gets you David and Zira, and the English (United Kingdom) gets you Hazel. All the other English language packs that have voices are the Speech to Text Mobile voices that are not compatible with Pilot2ATC. I may bite the bullet and actually pay to buy one or two. I really want at least 4: Center, Approach, Tower/Ground/ATIS, and Co-Pilot. Ultimately, it would be great to have separate voices for all the functions, but the voices start at $30 a pop!!!

 

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5 hours ago, Kawfee Bassie said:

I have been installing as many of the English language packs as possible to see how many voices I can get that are compatible with Pilot2ATC. So far, I have only found 3 that are the SAPI5 versions. The English (United States) gets you David and Zira, and the English (United Kingdom) gets you Hazel. All the other English language packs that have voices are the Speech to Text Mobile voices that are not compatible with Pilot2ATC. I may bite the bullet and actually pay to buy one or two. I really want at least 4: Center, Approach, Tower/Ground/ATIS, and Co-Pilot. Ultimately, it would be great to have separate voices for all the functions, but the voices start at $30 a pop!!!

 

If you did have the money for those redicules prices where would you go to get them?

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The voices don't have to be English voices, just desktop SAPI 5 voices.  For example, if you install the Language Pack from Spain (Espana) then you get a female voice (Helena) that has a very thick Spanish accent. 

Here's a link to a Microsoft site listing the language packs that include voices.

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/How-to-download-Text-to-Speech-languages-for-Windows-4c83a8d8-7486-42f7-8e46-2b0fdf753130

Dave

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On 10/14/2017 at 5:38 PM, stevenpow said:

If you did have the money for those redicules prices where would you go to get them?

NextUp sells voices from Nuance, Ivona, AT&T, etc. Ivona and Nuance are the best sounding. Nuance is a bit cheaper than Ivona.

http://nextup.com/purchase.html

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Since I moved to W10, I'm unable to use speech recognition with P2A or MCE.

I followed the above tutorial to switch from native French to US-English voice settings.

I'm able to speak with W10 Cortana without any problem, but not with P2A.

I tried 2 different microphones (USB or direct), I ran also the MCE wizard.

With "Grammar help", after pushing practice I see the following popup which seems to be correct:

636688Speech.jpg

Then I push PTT, speak the selected sentence, and P2A answers with: "Speech not Recognized.  Try pressing the Replay button to listen to your speech."

When I press Replay button, I'm able to hear correctly my sentence.

Any help is welcome.

 

 

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That does look correct.

Since the replay sounds good, then the microphone volume is probably OK also.

Sometimes a bad call-sign can cause problems with Grammar Helper.

Try phrases like "Say Altimeter" that do not require a call sign and see what happens.

If that works, change your call sign to a GA call sign, Mfg-Beech,TailNumber-N431VB.  I know that will work.

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Dave, do you recommend to set the input device (microphone) to "Exclusive" mode in Windows?

checkbox 1- "Allow applications to take exclusive control to this device"

checkbox 2- "Give exclusive mode applications priority"

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21 minutes ago, roland_lfor said:

Dave, do you recommend to set the input device (microphone) to "Exclusive" mode in Windows?

checkbox 1- "Allow applications to take exclusive control to this device"

checkbox 2- "Give exclusive mode applications priority"

For what it is worth Roland, that is the way I have my mic configured and no problems with P2A.

 

Bill

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Thanks Bill

I have created a new speech recognition profile in Windows and spend time to train. Things are getting slowly better...

My bloody french accent :blush:

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Roland,

Sounds like retraining the Speech Recognizer is the right approach. 

You should not have to have the microphone in exclusive use mode, but apparently you can.

Thanks for the update.

Dave

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I was able this afternoon to make a complete flight with P2A and the FSLabs bus between San Diego and San Francisco, a flawless flight, happy :biggrin:

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I purchased a number of Nextup Ivona voices for use with Pilot2ATC but they keep crashing Pilot2atc after a short time.

The error being received in windows event log is:

The description for Event ID 516 from source ReadSpeaker IVONA SAPI (OEM) cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event: 

register_voice() failed with error code 6: The handle is invalid.
 

Is anyone using Ivona voices successfully or having this problem?

I am running X plane 11, pilot2atc on Windows 10 build 1709 (fall creators update) with 41% cpu and 70% memory usage.

 

 

 

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This seems to be a problem with more recent IVONA voices.  I've had mine since 2014 and they cause no problems.  You are the second user I'm aware of having similar issues.

I suggest you open a problem ticket with IVONA.

Dave

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Unfortunately, Ivona nolonger sells or supports these products.  They are being sold by Nextup.

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Nextup.com has been in contact.  I will update if they are able to resolve the issues with the Ivona voices when used with Pilot2ATC.

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In case anyone was looking to take advantage of 20% off Nextup.com voices.  Performed some testing today and if only 2 ivona voices are enabled in pilot2atc then you will not have problems.

Problems begin at 3+

 

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24 minutes ago, JeB1952 said:

In case anyone was looking to take advantage of 20% off Nextup.com voices.  Performed some testing today and if only 2 ivona voices are enabled in pilot2atc then you will not have problems.

Problems begin at 3+

 

Thanks for the heads-up.

Edit: Went to the website but cannot see the 20% off, is it over?

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