August 22, 20169 yr Hello, I was approaching FlyTampa's Toronto an hour ago when my FPS dropped to a new low on final, giving me a number of ... 8. I launched MSI Afterburner to see what was going on and noticed my GPU (980ti) was at about 40% while the CPU1 usage was going through the roof. Overall CPU usage was pretty high but most of the work seemed to be coming from CPU1. Now I'm wondering why there's so much load on CPU1 while the other cores have significantly lower loads. Also I thought P3D wasn't as CPU-bound as FSX? I have an i7 2600 at 3.4.
August 22, 20169 yr Hello Canuck, Am not sure about a few things that may be relevant; 1. What Operating System? 2.What Motherboard and Bios version and settings of virtual cores? 3. Which FS Platform and series (FSX or P3D version) 4. What GPU and Driver? 5. What speed of overclock if any? Kind regards,
August 23, 20169 yr Overall CPU usage was pretty high but most of the work seemed to be coming from CPU1. Now I'm wondering why there's so much load on CPU1 while the other cores have significantly lower loads. Also I thought P3D wasn't as CPU-bound as FSX? I have an i7 2600 at 3.4. My experience is that near 100% core 0 CPU use is normal for any complex scenery situation and it is normal for the other cores to throttle back once scenery textures are loaded. If you are getting 100% usage out in the desert somewhere that's more of a worry. gb. YSSY. Win 10, [email protected], Corsair H115i Cooler, RTX 4070Ti, 32GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 256GB, ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger, Corsair HX850i 850W, Thermaltake Core X31 Case, Samsung 4K 65" TV.
August 23, 20169 yr Might be worth a look at this: http://www.avsim.com/topic/493878-win-10-aniversary-update-lost-most-cores-found-solution/. i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
August 23, 20169 yr Author Thanks for the replies. Would it make sense to upgrade to an i7 6700k 4.0-4.2? I'm wondering if that would be a significant difference to what I'm currently using... While on final for 24R at Montréal I got 12FPS which makes a precise landing somewhat tricky...
August 23, 20169 yr Note with a 6700k, you will also need a new Z170 type motherboard and DDR4 RAM. So I guess you need to figure out if getting an extra 5-10 FPS is worth the $550-600 in cost for the upgrade.
August 23, 20169 yr Thanks for the replies. Would it make sense to upgrade to an i7 6700k 4.0-4.2? I'm wondering if that would be a significant difference to what I'm currently using... While on final for 24R at Montréal I got 12FPS which makes a precise landing somewhat tricky... If you're using a 2600K (versus 2600) then overclocking it would be a worthwhile endeavor. If it's a 2600 (non-K locked-multiplier CPU) at 3.4, then yes, a 6700K overclocked to the mid 4GHz range should make a tremendous difference, especially with P3D and a 980Ti GPU. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 23, 20169 yr Author Thanks Bob, I'm using a non-K version. The one I'm keeping an eye on has 4.0 on default with a turbo to 4.2, not sure what I can expect when overclocking. It's just risky because if I had to upgrade the cooling system perhaps as well it would become a bit of a mess.
August 23, 20169 yr I think you also want to force non FSX/P3D tasks off of Core0. Steve has written a lot about this and can do it with affinity mask, however, you can use the freeware or payware version of Process Lasso Mark CYYZ
August 24, 20169 yr Author Is it possible to give a vague forcast of what kind of FPS I would get with a 6700k i7 4.0 together with my current system? I know it depends on settings too but I need to get an idea of how big the difference would be before spending the money. Approaching FlyTampa's Montréal in the NGX at daylight with few clouds gives me about 12 FPS.
August 24, 20169 yr Using an i7-4790K at 4.6GHz and a pair of 980Ti GPUs (which lope along at 30-40% ute rates without heavy clouds and/or 4xSGSS) I just flew an approach in the NGX holding 30 fps (with occasional drops to the high 20s) into FT's CYUL in P3D. I am using a 4K display synced at 30 Hz) If you modestly overclock a 6700K to ~4.4 Ghz you should be able to do the same, except perhaps in heavy clouds or with aggressive AA settings. With a lower res monitor, even better. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 26, 20169 yr Author I just flew an approach in the NGX holding 30 fps :blink: I'm okay as long as it stays above 20. If I do have heavy clouds I would still get more than 20 I presume? Anyway, thanks for your input, I shall be off to buy that new CPU shortly...
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