Hi Mike. Great reply. Very positive and equally helpful to Patricio. Which is why I wanted some precise information as regards which aircraft, which sim, which etc.

I posted those screenshots  as I was hoping to illustrate to Patricio, much as you too observed that range of hills, they do not interfere with any landings or Zurich would not see any flights. Even on a G/A, I don't think they come into play. So, how Patricio came to be any where close to them I'm sure baffles you as much as it does me.

 

2 hours ago, vc10man said:

Yes, I have 747 and MD-11 installed for fs9 and FSX Acceleration sims. Also, others PMDG for the FSX, you know.

Yes all PMDG as following.

FS2004:

24MAR09
VERSION 1.20.0055
PMDG MD-11 (pax) for FS9

24MAR09
VERSION 1.20.0055
PMDG MD-11F (cargo) for FS9

25APR08
VERSION 1.20
PMDG 747-400

PMDG 747-400F

=============================================

FSX:

PMDG 737NGX
Current with Build: 1.10.6461

PMDG P-8A Poseidon

PMDG 747-400

PMDG 747-400BCF

PMDG 747-400D

PMDG 747-400ER

PMDG 747-400ERF

PMDG 747-400F

PMDG 747-400M

PMDG 777-200LR
Current with Build: 1.10.6155

PMDG 777-300ER
Current with Build: 1.10.7025

PMDG 777F
Current with Build: 1.10.6155

PMDG 777-300ER GMC
Current with Build: 1.10.7025

24MAR09
VERSION 1.20.0055
PMDG MD-11 (pax) for FSX

24MAR09
VERSION 1.20.0055
PMDG MD-11F (cargo) for FSX

27MAY08
VERSION 2.10.0040
PMDG 747-400/400F for FSX

27MAY08
VERSION 2.10.0040
PMDG 747-400/400F for FSX

=============================================

 

2 hours ago, vc10man said:

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Sure, I will do a different shot if I find similar kind problem again.

1 hour ago, Mike777 said:

you need to stick to the particular aircraft, the particular simulator, and the particular scenery that is involved.

So sorry for the confusing.

Okay, Patricio, thanks for that list. You are more or less a fan of the PMDg range of aircraft !! LoL !!. A good choice but you must bear in mind these are not like any other aircraft. They have more systems depth, for starters.

Okay, that done, what add-on scenery/airports do use for this routing?

36 minutes ago, trisho0 said:

So sorry

No need at all to say that. You have not offended either MIke or I. That's what this Avsim Community is all about----helping each other.

Now, if you recall, I mentioned the use of SimPlatesX Ultra. Well, that IKL flag you saw in the FMC is in fact the ILS beacon at LSZH which has a Freq of 111.75

I'm currently flying the very same route, night flight, using the PMDG OOTS II, and it reflects that ILS Freq in the FMC NavRad. But if I turn to the Approach Plate for the same airport, same runway 14 using the AivlaSoft EFB, as you can see lower right corner, it has an out-of-date ILS14 Freq of 108.30, which I reckon the FS9 Navdata will also have.

Hence the anomaly that exists when you fly the MD-11 in FS9 and the QOOTS II in FSX.

I hope Mike pipes in here and agrees with my observations too.

3 hours ago, vc10man said:

You are more or less a fan of the PMDg range of aircraft

Thanks and also I have the Level-D for fs9 and FSX very realistic too.

3 hours ago, vc10man said:

No need at all to say that. You have not offended either MIke or I. That's what this Avsim Community is all about----helping each other.

Many thanks to reconsider me. Just trying to get help for the MD-11 which I flew PMDG MD-11 FSX flight plan EDNY/LSZH tonight http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/image/GL0i

3 hours ago, vc10man said:

Now, if you recall, I mentioned the use of SimPlatesX Ultra.

Really not thinking on those programs yet. I think is too much advanced. But is clear what you explained.

3 hours ago, vc10man said:

Hence the anomaly that exists when you fly the MD-11 in FS9 and the QOOTS II in FSX.

That's why thanks to all help I know to use the World/Map from sims and I can check on them prior to use the f/c. It seems to me I would have to go the airport arrival runway first with any plane, to check the freq/course from World/Map and then to prepare the flight plan from scratch. So, I can add in my flight notes the f/c for my flights.

7 hours ago, Mike777 said:

Thanks to Rick for providing screen shots of your autoland on Runway 14.

I flew the MD-11 (FSX) http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/image/GL0i Later, I will do on fs9

18 hours ago, vc10man said:

I'm currently flying the very same route, night flight, using the PMDG OOTS II, and it reflects that ILS Freq in the FMC NavRad. But if I turn to the Approach Plate for the same airport, same runway 14 using the AivlaSoft EFB, as you can see lower right corner, it has an out-of-date ILS14 Freq of 108.30, which I reckon the FS9 Navdata will also have.

Hi Rick and Patricio,

Patricio, congrats on your successful ILS 14 approach in FSX!  It should go just fine as long as you use  the ILS frequency showing for Rwy 14 in the FS9 Map. Thanks for clearing up which aircraft you have and which sims you are using them in.  Sorry if I was a little strong in my comments - I tried to not be too strong!

Yes, Rick, you've shown very clearly the discrepancy between the current ILS frequency on the current chart, and the out-of-date frequency shown in  the FS scenery (I take it that Aviasoft EFB gets its data from the FS scenery.  I have Flight Sim Commander which does the same thing).  Looking in both FS9 and FSX, with no addon scenery installed they both show 108.3 for Rwy 14.

To fix these issues long term I usually install a recent AFCAD file from a reputable author.  Ray Smith has done many AFCADs for FSX  However he has not done one since ILS 14 was modified, so I recommend this one by Stefan Liebe (Avsim Library):

https://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=190184

Note that this is for FSX ONLY! 

There may be ones for FS9 too.  You can search "LSZH" in the Avsim Library under FS9>AFCADS & FS9>Scenery.  Again AFCADs for FS9 don't work in FSX and visa versa.

There are global updates available here but I haven't used it. 

http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html

You can also buy payware scenery for many major airports, but if the scenery is not very recent it can have the same outdated information.

Finally, as an exercise, take a look at the following Airports in FS9 and FSX: KORD, KSEA, KIAD.

Then take a look at the current runway layout charts here (all from Flightaware.com, which also has up-to-date SIDs, STARs and Approaches for US airports):

KORD:

http://flightaware.com/resources/airport/ORD/APD/AIRPORT+DIAGRAM/pdf

KSEA:

http://flightaware.com/resources/airport/SEA/APD/AIRPORT+DIAGRAM/pdf

KIAD:

http://flightaware.com/resources/airport/IAD/APD/AIRPORT+DIAGRAM/pdf

Mike

8 minutes ago, Mike777 said:

Patricio, congrats on your successful ILS 14 approach in FSX! 

Thanks Mike for your other notes very interesting. Just ended same flight MD-11 FSX to LSZH but at night as a try because is dark but again, success. Can be seen at http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/image/GLFd

12 minutes ago, Mike777 said:

Looking in both FS9 and FSX, with no addon scenery installed they both show 108.3 for Rwy 14.

And also shown with Aerosoft addons maybe outdated too.

 

16 minutes ago, Mike777 said:

Finally, as an exercise, take a look at the following Airports in FS9 and FSX: KORD, KSEA, KIAD.

Great! I will look on that airports. Many thanks

Another question: How to make looking the aircraft (outside view) passengers windows with light at night? And also, after landed and with brakes On, I pressed (trying to find what happens) the buttons AFS OVRD OFF 1 & 2. I hear a voice something related with autopilot..........How to stop that voice message? I had to power engines Off to stop that (lol).

3 minutes ago, trisho0 said:

at night

Good for you, Patricio. Well Done. Night landings require a tad more skills as you have no visual references, except relying on your instrumentation.

22 minutes ago, Mike777 said:

Then take a look at the current runway layout charts here (all from Flightaware.com, which also has up-to-date SIDs, STARs and Approaches for US airports):

Great links, Mike. Worth invetsigating. I'm aware of Flghtaware but as I have up-to-date charts etc from SimPlatesX Ultra, I have never looked beyond that.

1 minute ago, trisho0 said:

windows with light at night

Only available with the latest PMDG 747 v3. Try not to over-reach yourself, Patricio, wanting this and wanting that unless you can re-code the MD-11.

24 minutes ago, Mike777 said:

There are global updates available here but I haven't used it. 

http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html

Do you know how often that site updates their files?

Not too long time ago I did that updates and I remember resolved some AFCAD for the fs9 and FSX. I think nothing will hurt to do it again.

13 minutes ago, vc10man said:

Good for you, Patricio. Well Done. Night landings require a tad more skills as you have no visual references, except relying on your instrumentation.

I like to fly more at night than day time. It is magic to see how looks outside especially on the airport..... looks at lanterns on how illuminates the ground and buildings with lights inside. Cool!

 

17 minutes ago, vc10man said:

Only available with the latest PMDG 747 v3. Try not to over-reach yourself, Patricio, wanting this and wanting that unless you can re-code the MD-11

Nah! it has to be a way to add a GAU file (lol). Well, let's MD-11 as is then. But still an amazing plane no matter in fs9 or FSX.

1 minute ago, trisho0 said:

I like to fly more at night than day time. It is magic to see how looks outside especially on the airport..... looks at lanterns on how illuminates the ground and buildings with lights inside. Cool!

 

Nah! it has to be a way to add a GAU file (lol). Well, let's MD-11 as is then. But still an amazing plane no matter in fs9 or FSX.

Good luck on doing it then. Just make sure you do not transgress PMDG's EULA, etc.