Novej757

Approach and Lift Dump

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A few quick questions:

1.  Can somebody please explain how to properly operate the lift dump system?  Is it an automatic (squat switch weight on wheels) type function?

     It does the same thing as the speedbrake switch correct or is this the same kind of lift dump that we see on the hawker?

     Can its function be assigned to a button via fsuipc?

2.  I was on approach to KPHX this evening under APR mode (runway 7L).  When the GS centered the aircraft did not capture it (It captured and followed localizer perfectly up until that point).  I tried pressing APR again to wake it up at              which point the plane veered off the  localizer and started diving.  Can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong and why it wouldn't capture the GS? 

Ok that was a lot more than a few quick questions, sorry............thanks for any help you can give

 

Novej757

 

 

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The autopilot is screwed up.  Most of the problems can be fixed by commenting-out the pop-up autopilot in the panel.cfg file and only using the VC autopilot.  I haven't taken the time to find the problem, but it definitely lies in the "CARPROLINE21_390IA!autopilot_bezel.xml" file.  Probably better for Bert or Ray to troubleshoot.  I am a total beginner at xml. 

The lift dump can be programmed by way of a FSUIPC macro. 

1. Open a blank text file and name it "390_Dump.mcro"

2. Paste the following, and only the following, into the file

[Macros]
1=L:ASD_390_LEVER_LIFT_DUMP=Set

3. Save the file to the "Modules" folder in FSX/P3D, the same folder with FSUIPC.exe

4. Start the simulator and the P1A.  Using FSUIPC, assign a switch or a button or even an axis.  When the pop-up window appears, select "L:ASD_390_LEVER_LIFT_DUMP" and set the parameter.  Set 1 to deploy the lift dump and set 0 to retract it. 

 

You can do the same thing for the spoilers.

"390_Spoiler.mcro"

[Macros]
1=L:ASD_SWITCH_EMB505_SPOILER=Set

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34 minutes ago, whamil77 said:

The autopilot is screwed up.  Most of the problems can be fixed by commenting-out the pop-up autopilot in the panel.cfg file and only using the VC autopilot.  I haven't taken the time to find the problem, but it definitely lies in the "CARPROLINE21_390IA!autopilot_bezel.xml" file.  Probably better for Bert or Ray to troubleshoot.  I am a total beginner at xml. 

The lift dump can be programmed by way of a FSUIPC macro. 

1. Open a blank text file and name it "390_Dump.mcro"

2. Paste the following, and only the following, into the file

[Macros]
1=L:ASD_390_LEVER_LIFT_DUMP=Set

3. Save the file to the "Modules" folder in FSX/P3D, the same folder with FSUIPC.exe

4. Start the simulator and the P1A.  Using FSUIPC, assign a switch or a button or even an axis.  When the pop-up window appears, select "L:ASD_390_LEVER_LIFT_DUMP" and set the parameter.  Set 1 to deploy the lift dump and set 0 to retract it. 

 

You can do the same thing for the spoilers.

"390_Spoiler.mcro"

[Macros]
1=L:ASD_SWITCH_EMB505_SPOILER=Set

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Here is how Carenado describes the Lift Dump system in the 390 Premier 1A. It is totally manual on the real world 1A models.  You have to press a button to engage, flip a switch to unlock and then move the Lift Dump lever to engage.  The handle should change color from white to red.

Regards,

Ray

 

 

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Novej757 Thanks a lot for the macros. The spoiler macro refers to EMB505. Its the right way? The spoiler macro don't appears in the select FSUIPC windows.

Thanks again

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9 minutes ago, edzunu said:

Novej757 Thanks a lot for the macros. The spoiler macro refers to EMB505. Its the right way? The spoiler macro don't appears in the select FSUIPC windows.

Thanks again

Yeah @whamil77 can you explain this a liittle more in depth please:

Start the simulator and the P1A.  Using FSUIPC, assign a switch or a button or even an axis.  When the pop-up window appears, select "L:ASD_390_LEVER_LIFT_DUMP" and set the parameter.  Set 1 to deploy the lift dump and set 0 to retract it.

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Yes, i do that way and works ok for the lever lift dump macro. The spoiler macro is for premier aircraft or for emb505? It's the spoiler macro the one that does not appear in assign window.

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14 minutes ago, edzunu said:

Yes, i do that way and works ok for the lever lift dump macro. The spoiler macro is for premier aircraft or for emb505? It's the spoiler macro the one that does not appear in assign window.

Im sorry I don't think you understand what Im saying.  I can't get the lever lift dump macro to work, can you explain how you got it to work please?

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8 minutes ago, edzunu said:

Yes, i do that way and works ok for the lever lift dump macro. The spoiler macro is for premier aircraft or for emb505? It's the spoiler macro the one that does not appear in assign window.

The Premier uses the same code as the EMB505 for the spoilers. 

Note that the macros must be two separate files, one for the Dump and one for the Spoilers.  You cannot put two macros in the same document.   Please carefully check the spoiler macro for errors.  Here it is again, copied straight from mine.

Title of file: "390_Spoiler.mcro"

Contents of file: 

[Macros]
1=L:ASD_SWITCH_EMB505_SPOILER=Set

If those are correct and the two files are in the correct location, I don't know why it doesn't show in the menu. 

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1 minute ago, Novej757 said:

Im sorry I don't think you understand what Im saying.  I can't get the lever lift dump macro to work, can you explain how you got it to work please?

How do you want to do it, button, switch, or axis?

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Just now, whamil77 said:

How do you want to do it, button, switch, or axis?

joystick button or keyboard if thats better.....

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OK.  to do that will require two buttons or keys.  One to deploy and one to retract.  Is that OK?

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1 minute ago, whamil77 said:

OK.  to do that will require two buttons or keys.  One to deploy and one to retract.  Is that OK?

Yes sir thats fine!

 

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OK. I'll assume you got the two macros built and loaded into the modules folder with the FSUIPC.dll file.  I also assume you have a registered copy of the payware version of FSUIPC.  It won't work with an unregistered version. 

Start the simulator and select the Premier.  Get it running on the ramp or runway.  Select FSUIPC from the "Add-ons" Menu at the top of the screen. 

Make sure the Premier has its own profile.  Go to the "Buttons and Switches" Tab.  How are you doing so far? 

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3 minutes ago, whamil77 said:

OK. I'll assume you got the two macros built and loaded into the modules folder with the FSUIPC.dll file.  I also assume you have a registered copy of the payware version of FSUIPC.  It won't work with an unregistered version. 

Start the simulator and select the Premier.  Get it running on the ramp or runway.  Select FSUIPC from the "Add-ons" Menu at the top of the screen. 

Make sure the Premier has its own profile.  Go to the "Buttons and Switches" Tab.  How are you doing so far? 

I have one macro loaded in modules (only because I don't really care about the speed brake one) do I need both?

Everything else Im right there with you.....

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You don't need both if you aren't interested in the speed brake.

You should be at the Button + Switches tab.  Push the button you want to use to deploy the Lift Dump.  You should see a joysitck number (could be zero) and a button number in the middle of the FSUIPC box.  On the right, check the box that says "Select for FS control".  Click the down arrow to the right of the box that says "Control sent when button pressed"  A menu of functions should pop up.  Right at the top of that list should be "390 Dump:L:ASD 390 LEVER LIFT DUMP Set".

Select that and enter 1 into the parameter.  How we doing?

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Problem, I assume.  Do you want to build the macro from scratch?

 

Well....I guess I lost you. 

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23 minutes ago, whamil77 said:

Problem, I assume.  Do you want to build the macro from scratch?

 

Well....I guess I lost you. 

hahahaha I was jut waiting on you....Your post just appeared for me sorry guess I need to refresh

 

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38 minutes ago, whamil77 said:

You don't need both if you aren't interested in the speed brake.

You should be at the Button + Switches tab.  Push the button you want to use to deploy the Lift Dump.  You should see a joysitck number (could be zero) and a button number in the middle of the FSUIPC box.  On the right, check the box that says "Select for FS control".  Click the down arrow to the right of the box that says "Control sent when button pressed"  A menu of functions should pop up.  Right at the top of that list should be "390 Dump:L:ASD 390 LEVER LIFT DUMP Set".

Select that and enter 1 into the parameter.  How we doing?

No 390 Dump:L:ASD 390 LEVER LIFT DUMP Set at the top of that list I only have "<Custom Control>"...........

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should that macro file still be a .txt format in the module folder???? Mine is even thought its named what you said to name it......

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10 minutes ago, Novej757 said:

should that macro file still be a .txt format in the module folder???? Mine is even thought its named what you said to name it......

It should not have ".txt" in the name.  It should be "390_Dump.mcro" (without the quotation marks). You can still open it with notepad, but it doesn't have ".txt" at the end of it.  

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15 minutes ago, whamil77 said:

It should not have ".txt" in the name.  It should be "390_Dump.mcro"  You can still open it with notepad, but it doesn't have ".txt" at the end of it.  

hmmm it doesn't have .txt in the name but its still showing up as a TXT file...........

Scratch that yes it does......How did that happen I didn't add that??? I thought just putting the .mcro would change it no??

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Let's build it from scratch.  Go to the desktop and right click.  Select "New" and "Text Document".  There should be a text document on your desktop named "New Text Document.txt"  Select the entire title and replace it with this...

390_Dump.mcro 

You will get a note from the computer whining about changing the extension.  Click "Yes"

Open the document and paste this into it.

[Macros]
1=L:ASD_390_LEVER_LIFT_DUMP=Set

Save it and place it into the same folder as FSUIPC4.dll.  Should be the modules folder in FSX or P3D. 

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1 minute ago, whamil77 said:

Let's build it from scratch.  Go to the desktop and right click.  Select "New" and "Text Document".  There should be a text document on your desktop named "New Text Document.txt"  Select the entire title and replace it with this...

390_Dump.mcro 

You will get a note from the computer whining about changing the extension.  Click "Yes"

Open the document and paste this into it.

[Macros]
1=L:ASD_390_LEVER_LIFT_DUMP=Set

Save it and place it into the same folder as FSUIPC4.dll.  Should be the modules folder in FSX or P3D. 

Ok sounds like a plan.  Does it matter that my new text document opens in notepad?

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