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I have two monitors on one video card.As long I use FS9 in window mode I can undock lets say the GPS and radio popups and put them in the secondary monitor.If then I return to full screen mode the GPS stays on the secondary screen but the radio popup returns to the main monitor.Apparently I am the only one having this problem. Any suggestion ?

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I'll follow this thread too, because I have the opposite problem. I have a panel which I want to appear on the primary monitor but it jumps over to the secondary the first time that I go to full screen. Going back to windowed mode, dragging the panels, and then returning to FS fixes it. But why dosen't it "take" the first time? R-

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The only way to really use FS with multi-monitors is to stay in windowed mode. Too many screwy things happen when you switch to full screen.Matt

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You are lucky. with me the panel will always jumpt back to the primary monitor. I could even see my screens dissapear if I keep on insisting.

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Before this thread gets sent over to the hardware forum, let me just say that I THINK...that there are software applications such as WideView and/or WideFS (I don't use them so please correct me if they are not the right ones) that are specifically designed to accomodate the multi-monitor issues you are facing.Regards,Jim

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For FS2004 that's true. It sucks pretty bad so we had to fix it.

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Matt,I search the net with googgle. It appears that many people asked how to have undocked panels on multiscreen in full screen mode. The answer seems: NO SOLUTION.It always come back to use windowed mode when using multi-screen and several pop-ups on a secondary monitor.

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Tdragger - Thank You !!!I have not had any issues with moving panels to the second monitor but it is a pain and its time consuming. 1) Switch to windowed mode. ALT-ENTER2) Undock and them move panels over.3) Switch back to full screen ALT-ENTER4) Move/Ajust and resize the panels now on the second monitor.Mark.

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Hi guys,I never had this problem but I had similar problems in multi monitor mode. I agree that MS really did a terrible job on multi monitor. I have no idea what they were thinking. I do not know if this helps but two things I found out.1. Do not deactivate hardware acceleration for the 2nd monitor. In FS2002 you could do this and it resulted in a jump in fps. But in FS9 all screens need hardware accelaration. If you do not have HW acceleration on the 2nd monitor the frame will jump to the primary monitor. All you can do is turn it down two notches.2. When you update your drivers FS will somehow loose focus of screen positions. Dunno why that is. But after updating your drivers when you load a saved flight which has stored screen positions FS will mess up, sometimes permanently. You have to go back to create a flight and open and drag your windows from there.3. Of course the obvious: Dragging windows to a different screen will only work in windowed mode.By following these rules I only had minor annoyances with multiscreens in FS (apart from the fact that now 2D windows on a 2nd or 3d monitor inflict a fps hit which was not the case in FS2002). I guess these are not the solutions you have been looking for, but maybe I could point you in the right direction.Alex

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Emile,I succeeded to have GPS and the radio panels together on one display and still being on full screen. Just one problem: I don't know how I did it :-grr If/when I found out I will let you know.BTW I realized that GPS take 3 fps. So it would be better to use it ONLY when necessary unless you have fps to spare.

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Thanks for the heads-up Tdragger. I wasn't too excited about FSX (FS9 is great) but now I can't wait for FSX. R-

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tdragger,Thanks for mentioning this. I've spent countless hours messing with my hardware and software trying to resolve issues with dual screen operations. I was just about to send my video card back to the manufacturer. Now that I know its not my system, I can get back to flying and just wait for FSX.Ted.

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>Tdragger - Thank You !!!>>>I have not had any issues with moving panels to the second>monitor but it is a pain and its time consuming. >1) Switch to windowed mode. ALT-ENTER>2) Undock and them move panels over.>3) Switch back to full screen ALT-ENTER>4) Move/Ajust and resize the panels now on the second>monitor.>>>Mark.Mark....The fact that you have to do those 4 steps IS this issue :) In FS2002, you could just stay in full screen and move things around very easily. Glad to hear it might be fixed in FSX.Matt

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1) Switch to windowed mode. ALT-ENTER2) Undock and them move panels over.3) Switch back to full screen ALT-ENTER4) Move/Ajust and resize the panels now on the second monitor.Yes if 4) they stay on the secondary monitor. They jump back to monitor 1.

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Hi guys, I am new here but i just had to post as i do things a little differently and for me it is much better than running 2 screens in windowed mode. My setup runs in fullscreen mode with the screen stretched across both monitors. I have a Nvidea 6600 by Leadteck using "span" mode this allows me to use two monitors as if it were one widescreen monitor with 2560 x 1024 resolution. The only problems are the guages in the 2d panel are stretched oval. To fix this I resize the main panel and view so it only covers the first screen and put the gps,radios, etc. on the other screen by dragging and resizing.No need to undock as you are running fullscreen and can drag and resize like if it was only one monitor. The virtual cockpit and spot modes span both screens and looks really big. Would attach pics but don't what size screenshots are allowed on the forum and my screenshots are 2560 x 1024.

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Glad to see that I'm not the only one using the "span" mode to give me a 2560 x 1024 view.Here's a screen print from inside the default B737-400 virtual cockpit.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/141021.jpgThe only thing done was to resize it. No cropping.You can bring up the gps, resize it, and move it anywhere. (The only glitch I haven't figured out yet is that when you bring up a 2d panel, such as the gps, in the VC, it is horizontally stretched.)Of course, there is the little matter of the vertical break between the two monitors, but I've found that I don't really notice it that much anymore. It works best with two LCD monitors that have thin bezels.I'm also considering doing some surgery on the monitors to close the break....jim

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>>I'm also considering doing some surgery on the monitors to>close the break.>>...jim>Oooooo....please keep us posted on that little project. You'd think by now someone would come out with monitors with no side bezels.Matt

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Have the same problem, but kinda fixed by redoing the process for each screen you want to move and MAKE SURE you click the second monitor so the lines show up on the moved screens, that must be a lock of some kind to hold them in plaace, I think this has something to do with the overall settings as well, but I am no computer expert......regards, RRL

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I have no problem using two monitors with full screen mode though I do have to move them over while in windowed mode first. One tip that I can offer is that I adjusted the window size and location (in the panel.cfg) of the ones that I move to the other monitor so that they will always show up in the proper spot and size when they are over there. When I start up FS in windowed mode I just undock the windows and drag them to the second monitor not worrying about position and size. When I go to full screen mode they all pop into correct position. Bud

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If I ever get around to it (and work up the courage) I'll post the details, including pics in all their gory glory. :-)...jim

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I'll throw in a few tips that someone might find helpful:1. I think it might help to make sure both monitors have the same settings (resolutions, video card options, etc.)2. Try messing with the positions you drop the windows in (on the second monitor). For me the windows end up in different places anyway, so you don't need to worry about placing them neatly when in windowed mode. Try dropping them all near the center or off to one side or the other and see what happens.3. I made a new panel with FS Panel Studio for my planes that incorporates all the extra windows into one window so now I only have to move one window. I've noticed that the number of gauges I put in this panel affects FPS, so be selective.

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I haven't noticed any FPS hit. I have it locked at 20. Still dips in complex areas or bad weather, but it did that with fullscreen in the "DualView" mode as well with scenery view on the left, panels on the right, before I switched to using VC's only.Oh, and I got TrackIR last week. Wonderfull immersion with this extra wide view. I'm lovin' it!...jim

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