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Wrong heading on EHSI - why?

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UPDATE: Just found the answer supplied by Bert on another post with the same problem. Gyro Drift sorted by pressing D. But how often does that need pressing?

It's been a long time since I flew a light aircraft with these navigation instruments but having just landed on Rwy 25 at EGAA where the runway heading is 250 can anyone please explain why the EHSI shows a heading of 331°? Hope that isn't a daft question:smile:.

The NAV/GPS Mode switch is in NAV mode and NAV1 is selected.

On a slightly different note is it possible for the aircraft to fly heading automatically with a flight plan loaded? I normally fly Concorde which does have that option of course as do all Boeing / Airbus aircraft.

EGAA_Rwy25.png?dl=0

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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It is a bug,  I believe... in some planes I have added a little routine to set it automatically.

Make sure that Gyro drift is turned off wherever you can.. or this can happen..

Bert

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Thanks Bert. I shall set Drift to Off. A few degrees is reasonable but 90?? :blink:

Could you answer my other question please? Is there any way the route can be flown by instruments only or does it require the pilot to manually change the GPS heading for the active waypoint?

I suppose I'm not used to all this manual stuff! :biggrin:

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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9 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Thanks Bert. I shall set Drift to Off. A few degrees is reasonable but 90?? :blink:

Could you answer my other question please? Is there any way the route can be flown by instruments only or does it require the pilot to manually change the GPS heading for the active waypoint?

I suppose I'm not used to all this manual stuff! :biggrin:

Ray,

If you set the nav mode to GPS in the GTN 750 or 530; it should shift your heading to active leg in the HSI.

Greg

 

 

Greg Morin

Commercial ASMEL Instrument CFI

Beta Tester i Blue Yonder, Flightbeam and Milviz

 

In the real world, small airplanes expect you to manually check/adjust the HSI heading every 15 mins to match the magnetic compass.

Bert

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18 minutes ago, gregmorin said:

Ray,

If you set the nav mode to GPS in the GTN 750 or 530; it should shift your heading to active leg in the HSI.

Greg

Thanks Greg. I believe I'm doing that already but it does require pilot input to change the heading to the one indicated by the GPS Mode. I am changing that manually (adjusting for wind influence) but wondered if the a/p was sophisticated enough to do it itself.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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4 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Thanks Greg. I believe I'm doing that already but it does require pilot input to change the heading to the one indicated by the GPS Mode. I am changing that manually (adjusting for wind influence) but wondered if the a/p was sophisticated enough to do it itself.

The HSI should automatically show the active GPS course, if the GPS is in GPS mode (not VLOC) and the HSI is in GPS mode also.

And the autopilot will automatically fly the GPS flight plan when in NAV mode.

What kind of GPS are you using in this airplane?

Bert

Errrr...why not just set GyroDrift=False in the Prepar3d.cfg [REALISM] section?  (Or uncheck the option in the sim's realism settings menu.)

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Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
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It is showing the course to the next waypoint. What I'm asking is can the a/p change heading to fly to that waypoint?

I'm using the default GPS supplied with the PC-12. Are there alternatives?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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2 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Errrr...why not just set GyroDrift=False in the Prepar3d.cfg [REALISM] section?  (Or uncheck the option in the sim's realism settings menu.)

Regards

I shall be doing that but using SimStarterNG. :smile:

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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5 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

And the autopilot will automatically fly the GPS flight plan when in NAV mode.

I missed that bit. I'll double check on my next flight, thanks.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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12 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

It is showing the course to the next waypoint. What I'm asking is can the a/p change heading to fly to that waypoint?

I'm using the default GPS supplied with the PC-12. Are there alternatives?

The Flight1 GTN750 is a great GPS for this airplane.

http://www.simforums.com/forums/flight1-gtn-in-pc12-v2_topic57846.html

It will change everything.. try downloading a copy of the free Gamin GTN Trainer

and run it separately from the sim, to see the functions..

If you get it, contact me for my latest PC12/GTN fixes.

ps You can also replace the crummy Carenado GNS by an RXP or Flight1 GNS.. but I would suggest getting the GTN instead.

Bert

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Thanks Bert. Is this compatible with P3D v3.4 and eventually v4?

It's a bit pricey at $65. Does it really justify that price tag?  http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=gtncomplete

LATER: I see it is P3D compatible but as I use Electronic Flight Bag on a WideFS computer I'm wondering it it's worth the price for me.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Compatible with FSX, FSX-SE, P3Dv3.x and P3dv4.x

Worth it?  I think so...it's a full implementation of both of the Garmin GTN units (GTN650 and GTN750) using Garmin's own FTD software as its core.  It gives you a touch-screen navcom system with TAWS and TCAS, and a whole lot of real-world bells and whistles.

Regards

 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

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Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

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TM TCA Officer Pack
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Bob,

Maybe if it's your primary aircraft. As I said earlier I have EFB which gives me navigation info and a whole lot more on a separate display running WideFS.EFB

I notice the terrain data is only for Nth America too. Each to their own. :wink:

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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