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P3d V4 New computer out of disk space

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Hello all,

I am with you Vic.

Personally, I have a 250GB SSD for the os (+antivirus and similiar software.)

I have a 250gb SSD for each of my Flight Sims..ie 1 for FS2004, 1 for P3Dv4, and, 1 for XPlane 11.(my major sim platforms) These are all internal drives.

These each have a 2tb HDD for sceneries and/or add-on accessories including installers etc. I also have an HDD (2tb, dedicated to Aeroflyfs2, DCS and FSW- all rarely used) and a 2TB dedicated just to backups. All HDDs are USB external drives, which I realize are not really ideal but for the time being they do suffice.

I also realize that I have probably gone overboard somewhat and once I can utilise platforms other than FS2004 with either VR or in 6 monitor mode, I find my system adequate for the time being but also fairly versatile. Some of us tend to go quite crazy with hardware and I definitely have my hand up there.

For the OP, however, I think it essential that OS and flight simming should be seperated. Definately SSDs where possible though HDDs are more than capable for your needs.

Regards to all

Tony

Tony Chilcott.

 

My System. Motherboard. ASRock Taichi X570 CPU Ryzen 9 3900x (not yet overclocked). RAM 32gb Corsair Vengeance (2x16) 3200mhz. 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti Extreme and a 1200watt PSU.

1 x 1tb SSD 3 x 240BG SSD and 4 x 2TB HDD

OS Win 10 Pro 64bit. Simulators ... FS2004/P3Dv4.5/Xplane.DCS/Aeroflyfs2...MSFS to come for sure.

Go ahead and reinstall the sim to the 1TB HDD. The loading time will increase compared to using the SSD but you will see NO difference in performance once the sim starts. If you decide that the load times are too long you can always add a new SSD later. But, I see no reason to spend the extra money for the SSD until you've tried running the sim on the HDD..........Doug

Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.

5 hours ago, W2DR said:

Go ahead and reinstall the sim to the 1TB HDD. The loading time will increase compared to using the SSD but you will see NO difference in performance once the sim starts. If you decide that the load times are too long you can always add a new SSD later. But, I see no reason to spend the extra money for the SSD until you've tried running the sim on the HDD..........Doug

Have to agree with this. The OP just bought a brand new machine so let’s first try how this new pc can perform without immediately Breukink the bank again. SSD’s are indeed the way to go but a regular HD, as the OP has right now, will work perfectly fine: only the loading times will be slower. Performance during flying won’t be different at all.

So my advice to the OP is to keep your money right now, uninstall everything and then reinstall everything on the D drive. If you don’t like what you see after giving it a try for a week or two, then start thinking about an SSD. 

Don’t get me wrong: I am all into SSD’s, I only have SSD’s in my PC, but in this particular case, in which the OP has already spend his hard earned cash, I simply think it is better to first give that system a try. 

BTW There seems to be some confusion but the ibuypower desktop doesn’t have an SSD right now. As far as I can tell it has one HD with has been partitioned into a C and D drive. Not ideal (I stopped using partitions a decade ago) but give it a try first. Not everyone has money lying around to buy SSD’s at will. I hope you will have a lot of fun with your brand new PC, callegro!

8 hours ago, W2DR said:

Go ahead and reinstall the sim to the 1TB HDD. The loading time will increase compared to using the SSD but you will see NO difference in performance once the sim starts. If you decide that the load times are too long you can always add a new SSD later. But, I see no reason to spend the extra money for the SSD until you've tried running the sim on the HDD..........Doug

I'm sorry, but that's simply not the case.  P3D, X-Plane and DCS are ALL much more responsive on SSD than on a HDD installation.  Sure, there's zero performance improvement with FPS, but to say he'll see "no difference" is incorrect and misleading.  Scenery loading is MUCH faster, meaning far less (possibly even zero) stutters while flying.

Windows 10 (x64) - X-Plane 11 - M/B: Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero - CPU: i7 7700k (@5.0GHz) - RAM: 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @ 3200MHz - Video: GTX1080ti - Cooling: Custom water loop (EK 140 Revo D5 pump/res combo, EK EVO CPU block, EK XE360 Rad)

15 hours ago, Dougal said:

I'm sorry, but that's simply not the case.  P3D, X-Plane and DCS are ALL much more responsive on SSD than on a HDD installation.  Sure, there's zero performance improvement with FPS, but to say he'll see "no difference" is incorrect and misleading.  Scenery loading is MUCH faster, meaning far less (possibly even zero) stutters while flying.

No performance difference for me (and for most everyone I discussed this with). I've run tests using SSD's and HDD's at 10,000, 7200, and 5400 rpm and I can see absolutely no performance difference. Scenery density is far more important that the storage mechanism. Have you actually run a series of controlled tests on various media?.........Doug

Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.

I really don't need to run that kind of test, as the difference on both my machines is like night and day. Areas where I have photo scenery or ORBX, the smoothness of the sim when loading textures from SSD is totally different.

This is even more so when running X-Plane 11 with Ortho textures.  When i had the scenery on HDD, there were always micro stutters.  I never see this any more now.

Windows 10 (x64) - X-Plane 11 - M/B: Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero - CPU: i7 7700k (@5.0GHz) - RAM: 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @ 3200MHz - Video: GTX1080ti - Cooling: Custom water loop (EK 140 Revo D5 pump/res combo, EK EVO CPU block, EK XE360 Rad)

Then you're a very lucky man indeed. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, Funny things these computers..........

Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.

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