When bored I get a yen for a new toy. My tastes in planes generally runs to the "low and slow" (with some exceptions as you'll see) so I've beefed up my mesh and scenery files for low level VFR flying. I have almost all of Bill Lyons' planes, FSD (Pilatus, Cheyenne, Commander), RealAir (SF260, Decathlon, Scout), Dreamfleet (Archer, Bonanza A36), Carenado (Mentor, Cessna 206II), and Aerosoft's Katana. The choices I am eying now are the DF Baron 58, or Eaglesoft's Cirrus 22 or Liberty (I have nothing from Eaglesoft so far). Does anyone have two or all of these last planes and be willing to share their preferences with me?

Aerosoft Supercub?

Hey Bob, the Dreamfleet Baron58 is just that...a dream. I have the RealityXP version. It runs great, looks great, the RXP nav system is great, the Flightline T RXP gauges run smooth as butter. If you are looking for Avidyne Avionics, the Eaglesoft is a real nice plane as well. I have the Cirrus SR20. (not installed at the moment on the new rig...yet)If you can get both, then you will get the best of both worlds as they are much different all around aircraft. I think there are reviews here on both as well. Lou and Ron are great developers with a talented staff in their hangers, and both offer great customer service. Good luck what ever you go with.EDIT: Here are the two reviews I found Here...http://www.avsim.com/pages/1205/Baron/baron.htmhttp://www.avsim.com/pages/0306/SR22/SR22.htm

The Baron is certainly very detailed but the lite version is particularly hard on frames.Cheers,Noel.

I agree with Noel 100%. I purchased the lite version before I got the RXP version. It had a much bigger hit on my other system for some reason. I highly recommend the RXP version over the lite. The only review I found was on the lite version.

>Eaglesoft's Cirrus 22 or>Liberty (I have nothing from Eaglesoft so far). Does anyone>have two or all of these last planes and be willing to share>their preferences with me? Why fly some old rustbucket when you can fly in style? I have both the cirrus 20 and cirrus 22, and they've become my favorites. Slap the rxp 530/430 units on top of them and you have a real winner. ricardo

Some of us like old rustbuckets! Give me a Landrover over a Porsche anyday.

I really enjoy the Baron, but I suggest that you also consider the Aeroworx King Air B200. Exquisite modelling of systems, great support, great detail. It will fulfull your low and slow interests but can get you high and fast when you want. I use it to break up my complacency. When I find that flying the DF Bonanza A36 (which u have) starts getting routine, I switch to the B200. The extra demands on pilot attention and flight planning etc provided by a twin turboprop with all the bells and whistles keep me on my toes for a while. Then I switch back to the Bonanza again because it is closer to what i will be flying in real life initially.

Apologies, folks. I thought I sent this already:My thanks to all who replied. I got some very good input and even a few laughs. Maybe my kids will come up with enough scratch on Father's Day that I can buy them all. To add to my dilemma, I just learned that Eaglesoft has a Columbia 400 project underway.

>Some of us like old rustbuckets! Give me a Landrover over a>Porsche anyday.I'll take the Porche, sell it and buy 3 rustbuckets! Thanks. Hmm, wish we could "sell" some of the payware aircraft we get, would help the "no way out" feeling of some vendors.

I'm also trying to decide between these planes, and it's very difficult because of the wide range of opinions in the reviews and in the forums. And the screenshots on the vendors' websites are very limited, especially the pilot's eye view from the vc which is how I fly my GA aircraft. I still don't really understand why the software vendors don't do what Just Flight have done with their Flying Club aircraft and have a 30 day trial for their products. It was only from these trial downloads that I decided to buy the Flying Club aircraft. I wouldn't have bought them from the screenshots alone which looked very average quality but actually having a chance to fly the planes made all the difference.

I think Flight1, at least for most of their aircraft, does have a 30 return-if-dissatisfied policy. I used it to test the Commander 112, but that was the only plane for which I exercised that option. RealAir was very considerate in refunding my money when I could not make the 2006 update for the Scout-Decathlon-Catabria work.