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Generating Scenery Indexes Freezing 68%

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When I start FSX-SE and it says "Generating Scenery Indexes" it freezes at 68%.  If I delete the scenery.cfg and then start FSX-SE, it goes though fine, but deleting the scenery.cfg removes all my Orbx scenery from the scenery library.  Starting FTX Central (I need to do it while the sim is running though, because if I do it when sim is not running it will have the freezing problem again) adds them back in but in order to activate them I need to go to the scenery library and click ok.  Guess what.  Stuck at 68% on Generating Scenery Indexes.  Any ideas as to how I can get this to not freeze at 68% besides deleting the scenery.cfg before starting the sim every time?  Many thanks in advance.

 

Caleb

Caleb Byers

PC: HP Envy 750, Intel Core i7 6700 @ 3.4 GHz (max 4.0 GHz), 24GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 745 with 4GB Memory, 2TB SSHD Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

Simulators:  Prepar3D v3.4, Prepar3D v4.5, FSX:SE, FSX:Gold Edition

Using the FSX Deluxe Edition SDK SP2 for development.

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Do you think it's the ORBX scenery causing the loading bar to freeze at 68%?  What happens if you uncheck all of the ORBX scenery in your Scenery Library and start the Sim?

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Thanks for the reply.  You are right.  Without Orbx enabled it does not freeze.  Does anyone know how I may be able to fix this?  Or would this be better continued in the Orbx forums?

 

Thanks

Caleb Byers

PC: HP Envy 750, Intel Core i7 6700 @ 3.4 GHz (max 4.0 GHz), 24GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 745 with 4GB Memory, 2TB SSHD Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

Simulators:  Prepar3D v3.4, Prepar3D v4.5, FSX:SE, FSX:Gold Edition

Using the FSX Deluxe Edition SDK SP2 for development.

AVSIM has a nice "unofficial" FTX/Orbx Support Forum.  Maybe someone there will be able to help.

As stated in the AVSIM CTD Guide, you can disable scenery and then enable one at a time until the problem reoccurs.  That will tell you which scenery is the culprit and you can then work with either reinstalling or disabling it permanently.  I do not recall hearing of Orbx Regional scenery crashing before.

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25 minutes ago, Jim Young said:

AVSIM has a nice "unofficial" FTX/Orbx Support Forum.  Maybe someone there will be able to help.

As stated in the AVSIM CTD Guide, you can disable scenery and then enable one at a time until the problem reoccurs.  That will tell you which scenery is the culprit and you can then work with either reinstalling or disabling it permanently.  I do not recall hearing of Orbx Regional scenery crashing before.

Thanks, Jim.  That was going to be my next suggestion...the ol' one at a time trick!😀

Charlie Aron

AVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-Registrar

Just going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱
Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!

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There is no other solution really.  If the loading bar freezes at 68% that means absolutely nothing, but disabling a scenery as the OP did will provide clues as to what caused it to freeze.  I think Orbx stuff is getting to be more and more photo scenery and that is not good as computer systems treat photo scenery different than regular scenery files.  It is strange that one or two sceneries would cause loading to stop at a certain percentage.  But, when I had enabled a lot of photo scenery I have installed, loading usually looked like it froze at 6% and it would be like that for nearly 5 minutes, then loading would continue.  Perhaps the OP is not waiting long enough for the loading to be completed?  If so, nothing is wrong other than it takes a long time to load some sceneries. 

When I have this problem, I go to the AVSIM CTD Guide and look up the information for Process Monitor.  It has a link to the Process Monitor program that can be download.  The guide also shows how to program the Process Monitor so that only FSX and FSX addons are loaded.  This way you can watch what exactly is loading at 68%.  If the loading is really frozen, then there is a problem.  If the process monitor is showing scenery still loading even though stuck at 68%, then there is nothing wrong and one just has to wait until the loading is complete.  The more scenery enabled, the more likely it will take a long time to load a flight.

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I started FTX Central Before starting FSX-SE, and then when open FSX-SE I let it sit for a while after it seemed to get stuck on 68%.  It finished eventually.  I guess I needed to wait for a long time.

 

Thanks for the help

Caleb Byers

PC: HP Envy 750, Intel Core i7 6700 @ 3.4 GHz (max 4.0 GHz), 24GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 745 with 4GB Memory, 2TB SSHD Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

Simulators:  Prepar3D v3.4, Prepar3D v4.5, FSX:SE, FSX:Gold Edition

Using the FSX Deluxe Edition SDK SP2 for development.

Can FTX Central be open when running FSX-SE.  Never heard of that.  Isn't it for installing new scenery?  Well I decided to try what you did by starting up FTX Central and then starting up FSX.  Everything loaded very fast so at least I do not think it is FTX Central.  Is there a reason for opening FTX Central before running FSX?

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24 minutes ago, Jim Young said:

Can FTX Central be open when running FSX-SE.  Never heard of that.  Isn't it for installing new scenery?  Well I decided to try what you did by starting up FTX Central and then starting up FSX.  Everything loaded very fast so at least I do not think it is FTX Central.  Is there a reason for opening FTX Central before running FSX?

Opening FTX Central will add the Orbx scenery to the scenery library so the user doesn't need to do it manually.  I needed to do this as I was using a fresh scenery.cfg.

Caleb Byers

PC: HP Envy 750, Intel Core i7 6700 @ 3.4 GHz (max 4.0 GHz), 24GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 745 with 4GB Memory, 2TB SSHD Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

Simulators:  Prepar3D v3.4, Prepar3D v4.5, FSX:SE, FSX:Gold Edition

Using the FSX Deluxe Edition SDK SP2 for development.

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FTX Central is for installing new scenery, but the reason I was running it while the sim was running was to add the things to the scenery library.  I need to go to the scenery library and click ok to "reload" the scenery after doing so in order for the changes to have effect though.

 

Caleb

Caleb Byers

PC: HP Envy 750, Intel Core i7 6700 @ 3.4 GHz (max 4.0 GHz), 24GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 745 with 4GB Memory, 2TB SSHD Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

Simulators:  Prepar3D v3.4, Prepar3D v4.5, FSX:SE, FSX:Gold Edition

Using the FSX Deluxe Edition SDK SP2 for development.

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I have used FSX from 2010 and it always froze on 68 to 69% from the very first time and every other time. All I had to do was wait.

 

By changing to an SSD hardrive the wait was about 6 times shorter. And booting up the computer was about 15 times faster. A small SSD (say 256 GB) is under $60 and will be a better upgrade than any other component, in my opinion.

 

A 500 GB (for Windows folder, FSX folders) about $110 which is what you need for booting the system and for FSX.

All the other programs on the computer can be left on the old hardrive.

 

A hybrid drive is even much cheaper, and is faster than a regular HDD but slower than an SSD.

 

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14 minutes ago, Fielder said:

I have used FSX from 2010 and it always froze on 68 to 69% from the very first time and every other time. All I had to do was wait.

 

By changing to an SSD hardrive the wait was about 6 times shorter. And booting up the computer was about 15 times faster. A small SSD (say 256 GB) is under $60 and will be a better upgrade than any other component, in my opinion.

 

A 500 GB (for Windows folder, FSX folders) about $110 which is what you need for booting the system and for FSX.

All the other programs on the computer can be left on the old hardrive.

 

A hybrid drive is even much cheaper, and is faster than a regular HDD but slower than an SSD.

 

Yes, I have considered getting a 500 GB (or similar) SSD but I think I am good with what I have for now.  I currently have a 2 TB SSHD.  I want to not get such a small drive, especially with Orbx's new TrueEarth photoreal products for Prepr3D v4 coming out in the near future that seem to be in the 75-120 GB size range.  FS loading and PC bootup speed is not very important to me, I am mainly concerned about FPS.  I have heard that the type of drive does not effect FPS, so I think I am good with what I have for now.  When/if I get (and can afford) a now PC, I will go latest and greatest with an SSD with hopefully over 30 TB of capacity.

Caleb Byers

PC: HP Envy 750, Intel Core i7 6700 @ 3.4 GHz (max 4.0 GHz), 24GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 745 with 4GB Memory, 2TB SSHD Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

Simulators:  Prepar3D v3.4, Prepar3D v4.5, FSX:SE, FSX:Gold Edition

Using the FSX Deluxe Edition SDK SP2 for development.

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