May 27, 20188 yr Commercial Member 47 minutes ago, robbroadbent said: Pete, could you please explain how you achieved this? I thought the only way to achieve a non distorted view was have the 3 separate windows. Three separate VIEWS. They don't need to be separate Windows. Mine were set up for me by TruView, who made and installed my screen. All I know is that they are three different views set against either the default view or, somehow, a blank view. without closing one down I can't see what's behind them. But it's a single stretched window. I know that. Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
May 28, 20188 yr On 5/27/2018 at 4:14 PM, GSalden said: In your case start with no AM and no HT as my CPU goes to 100% on almost every core when trying to use an AM entry. Hi Gerard, Haven't noticed any difference yet with HT off. I will do further testing. Best regards Rob i9 7900x, Asus x299 Deluxe Prime, 3 x 1080ti, 32gb Ram, P3DV4.2, Prosim737, Immersive Display Pro, Pilot2ATC, AivlaSoft EFB
May 28, 20188 yr 23 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Three separate VIEWS. They don't need to be separate Windows. Mine were set up for me by TruView, who made and installed my screen. All I know is that they are three different views set against either the default view or, somehow, a blank view. without closing one down I can't see what's behind them. But it's a single stretched window. I know that. Pete Thanks Pete, That is a great help. Everything I have read said to use ViewGroups. It is a FPS killer because, as Gerard has stated, undocking P3D windows causes huge hits. Now working to warp single Nvidia spanned view with 2 additional views. Best regards Rob i9 7900x, Asus x299 Deluxe Prime, 3 x 1080ti, 32gb Ram, P3DV4.2, Prosim737, Immersive Display Pro, Pilot2ATC, AivlaSoft EFB
May 28, 20188 yr 23 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Three separate VIEWS. They don't need to be separate Windows. Mine were set up for me by TruView, who made and installed my screen. All I know is that they are three different views set against either the default view or, somehow, a blank view. without closing one down I can't see what's behind them. But it's a single stretched window. I know that. Pete As I understand it they are indeed 3 seperate views , but combined in 1 window. Incl Edge blending. However , the franerate should be the same as with 3 seperate views or view groups... 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
May 28, 20188 yr Commercial Member 41 minutes ago, robbroadbent said: Now working to warp single Nvidia spanned view with 2 additional views. I don't know how to get rid of the "original" view. I'm sure we used to be able to do it. Otherwise, I assume the stretched background needs to be chosen to be a fixed view of nothing much, so it doesn't consume valuable processing. Then the three "normal" views are positioned appropriately on top. At least, that's what it looks like NatVis has done for me (it was all set up when Nat, of NatVis, installed the screen. But there is definitely a stretched view behing my three as I can see it if I close one of my views (usually accidentally! 😉 ). TruView software used by NatVis is based on Fly-Elise Immersive Display (same programmer I believe) but tailored to Natvis requirements. My installation is featured on NatVis's case study web site, here: https://www.natvis.com.au/gallery Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
May 28, 20188 yr Commercial Member 9 minutes ago, GSalden said: However , the franerate should be the same as with 3 seperate views or view groups. Nat tried P3D's View Groups here, but it was much worse. Maybe it is just my system. Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
May 28, 20188 yr 3 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: Nat tried P3D's View Groups here, but it was much worse. Maybe it is just my system. Pete I agree Pete, Viewgoups are much worse. Still working on warping the 3 views but I am sure I will get there. I have seen a huge improvement in frame rates with 3 windows open. SLI enabled and spanned. I am using Immersive Display Pro also. Best regards Rob i9 7900x, Asus x299 Deluxe Prime, 3 x 1080ti, 32gb Ram, P3DV4.2, Prosim737, Immersive Display Pro, Pilot2ATC, AivlaSoft EFB
May 28, 20188 yr 10 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: Nat tried P3D's View Groups here, but it was much worse. Maybe it is just my system. Pete As I have a 2/3 cockpit to improve fps ( True Earth NL ) I have my 2 32” front/right front views in surround and only the left front view as an extra seperate view. 25% more fps as 3 seperate views... 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
May 28, 20188 yr Commercial Member 4 minutes ago, GSalden said: As I have a 2/3 cockpit to improve fps ( True Earth NL ) I have my 2 32” front/right front views in surround and only the left front view as an extra seperate view. 25% more fps as 3 seperate views... I don't think we can do that on a curved wrap-around screen and have the warping and overlapping done correctly to "straighten" the curved image. The result, when done well, is truly seamless. Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
May 28, 20188 yr 25 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: I don't think we can do that on a curved wrap-around screen and have the warping and overlapping done correctly to "straighten" the curved image. The result, when done well, is truly seamless. Pete Nvidia has a plug-in that fixes the fisheye effect . Only developers need to implement them into their software... http://www.isrtv.com/forums/topic/22306-nvidia-1080-1070-will-solve-fisheye-problems-for-triples/ Hopefully LM will implement this too. Edited May 28, 20188 yr by GSalden 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
May 28, 20188 yr 13 minutes ago, GSalden said: Nvidia has a plug-in that fixes the fisheye effect . Only developers need to implement them into their software... I wish LM would develop this feature, on the plus side Nvidia claimed it was done at no fps loss. AMD 9800X3D, NZXT X73 RGB AIO COOLER, Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7, 64GB 6000MHZ RAM, 4TB Samsung Pro NVME, 4 TB Crucial P3+ NVME, 4TB Crucial SSD, Gigabyte Gaming OC Geforce RTX5090, Antec C8 ARGB Case, X55 JOYSTICK/THROTTLES, LG 4K C4 42" TV/Monitor 120 Hz, 2 Dell 1080 monitors. Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Bravo Throttle. Thrustmaster TPR Pedals. Moza AB6 FFB Joystick, Pimax Crystal Light VR, Tobii Eye tracker, Steelseries Arctis 7+ Wireless Headphones.
May 28, 20188 yr Commercial Member 22 minutes ago, GSalden said: Nvidia has a plug-in that fixes the fisheye effect . Only developers need to implement them into their software... http://www.isrtv.com/forums/topic/22306-nvidia-1080-1070-will-solve-fisheye-problems-for-triples/ Hopefully LM will implement this too. I didn't know about that! And since 2016? I can't seem to find nVidia details for it, but maybe I missed one of the links. Has anyone asked L-M to support this yet? Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
May 28, 20188 yr Don’t know. I was hoping that you had some connection there... BTW : haven’t you tried 2 views spread over your 3 projectors ? 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
May 28, 20188 yr Commercial Member 1 hour ago, GSalden said: BTW : haven’t you tried 2 views spread over your 3 projectors ? Not possible with this system. Not sure why. Probably because the fish eye distortion obtained from even a 120+ degree FOV (allowing for overlap) is too much to allow proper seamfree blending no matter how good the de-warping is. Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
May 28, 20188 yr Commercial Member 1 hour ago, GSalden said: I was hoping that you had some connection there... No point me asking for things no "normal" users have asked for! I do ask for programming features to support already supported functions on previous versions. Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
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