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Sim small stop&go after 2hrs

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I need your help:

During "long" flight, should we say after about 1.5/2 hours flight, P3D starts to have a sort of short stop&go.

After few seconds the simulation starts again. It is like a small PAUSE of few seconds.

During the flight I have a stable 32 fps.

If the flight has to conitnue for another hour, the issue comes up again and becomes more critical: pauses are longers.

Eventually P3D crashes and I have to resume it.

 

I have checked VAS with Proces Explorer and when the issues started I had 2.4.GB of memory usage...so not so bad.

I do not have this issue with another complex airplanes.

My hardware: P3D3.4. win10.  I7 7700k 4.2ghz. 16GB. Nvidia1070gtx. 3screens x sim + 1 for services (fmc undocked)

 

Any idea?


 

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49 minutes ago, Marenostrum said:

During "long" flight, should we say after about 1.5/2 hours flight, P3D starts to have a sort of short stop&go.

After few seconds the simulation starts again. It is like a small PAUSE of few seconds.

During the flight I have a stable 32 fps.

If the flight has to conitnue for another hour, the issue comes up again and becomes more critical: pauses are longers.

Eventually P3D crashes and I have to resume it.

If you have FSUIPC, turn off Auto-save, or be sure to set the save frequency much lower.

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Thank you ...but I have the unregistered version (no autosave option).

but possibly you gave me the right direction: I use Proatc x that has an autosave option. I will disable it and try.

 

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11 minutes ago, Marenostrum said:

Thank you ...but I have the unregistered version (no autosave option).

but possibly you gave me the right direction: I use Proatc x that has an autosave option. I will disable it and try.

 

Yeah, that's probably it. When you save the flight, our plane also saves a bunch of data, too, so that when you load the flight (which doesn't save much other than airspeed, altitude, and location...couple other things, but none of it includes all of the switch positions, system states, panel states, your FMC data and so on), the plane is ready to go, too. Given the amount of data, if you do it often enough, your computer will get backed up (keep in mind, it's trying to run the entire sim while it's doing this, too), and performance will suffer.

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It seems that I have solved the issue by uncheking the autosave opion in Proatc x. I need a long flight to comfirm but it seems solved.

 

thank you

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48 minutes ago, Marenostrum said:

It seems that I have solved the issue by uncheking the autosave opion in Proatc x. I need a long flight to comfirm but it seems solved.

 

thank you

Glad to hear it. You're welcome.

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now the consequent question is ...is there an automatic way to save without having the issue? Now I am doing a manual save about each hour, to  recover in case of crash...but it is a little annoying.

Thank you

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26 minutes ago, Marenostrum said:

now the consequent question is ...is there an automatic way to save without having the issue? Now I am doing a manual save about each hour, to  recover in case of crash...but it is a little annoying.

Thank you

Stefano,

With all the automatic saving ways you are going to have the same issue. This is purely with the amount of data that is saved

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OK...I realized it...and just for my curiosity...why the standard manunal saving does not affect it...it should save all the settings too? 

Be patiente with my curiosity 🙂

 

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5 minutes ago, Marenostrum said:

OK...I realized it...and just for my curiosity...why the standard manunal saving does not affect it...it should save all the settings too? 

Be patiente with my curiosity 🙂

 

The times with manual save and automatic save should be the same. At least for FSUIPC it is. I do not know if the ProATC saves other data as well hence increasing the time

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Now that I have disabled the PROATC autosave I have no more the issue ot the micro stop&go exactly like other users having the autosave option in FSUIPC

But if you say that the autosave of FSUIPC does the same of the manual save (in term of variables stored), which is the difference? 

Is it a matter of how many autosave? If it is so, I could reactivate the autosave with a saving each, should we say, 1 hour or half an hour (not 10 min)

What is your opinion?

 

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11 minutes ago, Marenostrum said:

Now that I have disabled the PROATC autosave I have no more the issue ot the micro stop&go exactly like other users having the autosave option in FSUIPC

But if you say that the autosave of FSUIPC does the same of the manual save (in term of variables stored), which is the difference? 

Is it a matter of how many autosave? If it is so, I could reactivate the autosave with a saving each, should we say, 1 hour or half an hour (not 10 min)

What is your opinion?

 

I believe most of users have the save once every 30 minutes or an hour. Personally never use it

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Posted (edited)

Personally, I have a habit of saving at specific times such as in position on runway ready for takeoff, thence every four flight hours (when I update enroute wind forecasts) and then before TOD.  I will also save before reaching Canada on a Westerly NAT flight because things can get irrational in that part of the world for no known reason.  Always and only manual saves using P3D save scenario, and always to same file name (eg _ENR NGX).

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7 hours ago, Marenostrum said:

so you just use the manual save?

Not using a save at all 

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5 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

Not using a save at all 

The man likes to live on the edge...

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There was this moment I became so pi**ed off the crashes that I started my personal investigation. It turned out that after I had removed my FSDT JFK scenery I haven't had a single P3Dv4 crash anymore.. 

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yesterday I flew for about 3 hours without any crash...I simply tried to pop up very few times the PFD (First officer...not captain)..and the ND,

I saved the flight only before the TOD.

I do not have FSDT, so it  cannot be the reason.

I am slowly testing...I will see.

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6 hours ago, Marenostrum said:

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I do not have FSDT, so it  cannot be the reason.

 

it was just my example. Most if not almost all crashes happen due to issues with addons. A stock P3dv4 will not crash as long as your computer doesn't have issues itself. 

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2 hours ago, Ephedrin said:

it was just my example. Most if not almost all crashes happen due to issues with addons. A stock P3dv4 will not crash as long as your computer doesn't have issues itself. 

Sure, it is a good example, considering that I use ORBX and I I have to be careful with the sliders setting to avoid the risk of OOM. 

I think that the reason is due to a RAM/CPU overload, caused by me, doing too many other things in the cruise phase. I did two average (3hrs) flights paying attention in not clicking too much the PFD and ND popup and without doing other things. I had no issue.

Now I am flying in USA with the ORBX scenery and I see the difference in fps when I approach a big city/airport but paying attention I did not have a P3D crash.

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20 minutes ago, Marenostrum said:

doing too many other things in the cruise phase

Yes that could be the problem. I can‘t tell about v4 but the older versions really didn‘t like to run in the background for a longer time.

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2 minutes ago, Ephedrin said:

Yes that could be the problem. I can‘t tell about v4 but the older versions really didn‘t like to run in the background for a longer time.

I do not minimize them, I just work on other things on the 4th screen leaving the sim screen maximized...but I think P3D does not like also this way.

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2 hours ago, nas123 said:

Try SmartStarter wMapLog to save your flights. It is easy to restart flights both from SmartSarter itself of from i.e. Little NavMap or Google maps.

Sorry NAS,

The only information I found in the WWW by googling SmartStarter is a post written by you in AVSIM and an Australian site about "Smart Start with PMP" is a unique Australian Perceptual Motor Program for five to seven year olds. that I suppose it is not the correct link.

Where is this app visible?

Thank you

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