August 5, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, Mitch24 said: I hate when people say "Oh well the sim performs perfect when stripped back to default": like OK: when is the last time you used P3D at default with no Add-ons?. Like get outta here. Ah Mitch, with respect you need to read my post again. I am conducting a troubleshooting exercise to try to isolate what causes these extended pauses. This takes time and a modicum of effort. Stripping back the sim to a near default state appears to be suggesting that an Addon may be responsible. My testing time is limited right now and a careful methodical approach is necessary if it’s likely to yield meaningful results. I have no intention of hurrying this process. I’m sure you will remember how fast the sim loaded before starting to build up your Scenery Library. This reminder has persuaded me to consider approaching things differently in future by only enabling those scenery items as are needed for a specific flight. Takes a little longer to set things up, but I’m finding that it’s certainly worth the effort. No more hanging around waiting for stuff to load and, as things stand right now, the rewards are better performance with no pausing or noticeable stuttering. Edit: it should be noted that LM have made this process much easier in v4.3 by allowing earlier access to the Scenery Library and Add-ons from the Prepar3D Scenario screen. Regards, Mike Edited August 5, 20187 yr by Cruachan
August 5, 20187 yr Author 34 minutes ago, Chris Bell said: @GSalden you can disable AI in sim settings until a fix is out for this issue, You are probably right . In my case I only need to disable AI when flying to Amsterdam. You remember my screenshots with my custom AG instead of the TE NL AG. That was 600 mb AG compared to 1.5 Gb AG. Then it all worked well ( V4.2 ) . 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
August 5, 20187 yr Author 1 hour ago, Chris Bell said: @GSalden you can disable AI in sim settings until a fix is out for this issue, You are probably right . In my case I only need to disable AI when flying to Amsterdam. You remember my screenshots with my custom AG instead of the TE NL AG. That was 600 mb AG compared to 1.5 Gb AG. Then it all worked well ( V4.2 ) . Edited August 5, 20187 yr by GSalden 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
August 5, 20187 yr Commercial Member Leave Pagefile on auto unless developing system apps or interested in crash diagnostics.. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 5, 20187 yr Author 5 minutes ago, SteveW said: Leave Pagefile on auto unless developing system apps or interested in crash diagnostics.. Not a fixed value as was advised with former Windows versions to avoid the continuesly resizing which caused a slight performance drop ? 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
August 5, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, GSalden said: Not a fixed value as was advised with former Windows versions to avoid the continuesly resizing which caused a slight performance drop ? Hi Gerard, I’m assuming that had more to do with progressive fragmentation of the Pagefile over time on HDDs. These days SSDs makes that irrelevant. Nowadays I think we can safely assume that Windows knows best...and that started with Windows 7. Regards, Mike
August 5, 20187 yr 26 minutes ago, SteveW said: Leave Pagefile on auto unless developing system apps or interested in crash diagnostics.. why would you advise dedicating 16GB on SSD for paging? or paging to begin with; with 32GB fast system ram, and additional 16GB on board GPU's? Edited August 5, 20187 yr by Chris Bell
August 5, 20187 yr 11 minutes ago, Cruachan said: These days SSDs makes that irrelevant. not only SSD, systems speeds and the low RAM cost now days makes this old logic irrelevant, paging was used in the very old days when systems had 16/32MB yes MB RAM! paging was efficient and cheap way back than to free up RAM usage to speed system performance, back than the cost of upgrading ram even by 16mb was ridicules so offloading to a temp file located on system drive was a smart way of handling this limitation; 30 or so years ago in the very early windows days! not so much today,
August 5, 20187 yr Commercial Member 16 minutes ago, Chris Bell said: why would you advise dedicating 16GB on SSD for paging? or paging to begin with; with 32GB fast system ram, and additional 16GB on board GPU's? Who would advise that? My auto setting is 4.5Gb - maybe your system setup is goofed. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 5, 20187 yr Commercial Member 31 minutes ago, GSalden said: Not a fixed value as was advised with former Windows versions to avoid the continuesly resizing which caused a slight performance drop ? If you know what you are doing then you can choose what you want. Who can tell us the theory behind the proper selection of your pagefile with so many systems and disk setup? OK then.. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 5, 20187 yr @SteveW its not goofed here since its always been disabled from my memory if not mistaken your page file could grow up to half of your installed ram; that's what auto manage page file does by default, i could be off on this but that to the best of my recollection is the math behind it, disabling page file is to this day one of the first steps i do on any new system, i've done this all the way back to XP days, not a single issue ever! you have RAM you paid for it, use it! is my motto Edited August 5, 20187 yr by Chris Bell
August 5, 20187 yr Commercial Member Page file is basically in case you run out of RAM so what's the point anyone is trying to make? Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
August 5, 20187 yr the point im tying to make is if you utilize 4.5GB on your page as is, you could have placed it in your ram and speed up your system by virtue of ram vs even ssd speeds, unless you are low on ram; which is not the case with most sim platforms; why slow it down with paging? even if its not the data flow to gpu; why slow your system down for no reason? you have ram, its always idle, use it! Edited August 5, 20187 yr by Chris Bell
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