747 at Kai Tak: overall experience 6 years on

[tfm 169]

I couldn't find a simple before and after comparison so I thought I'd post this in case anyone else is curious.

 

After a break from FSX of 6 or 7 years I recently started again from scratch with P3D running on up-to-date kit (8086K all cores running at 5GHz, 4GHz RAM (very important) and a 1080ti with 4K output) using the usual addon models and scenery and weather engine optimised for P3Dv4.3.

 

As an acid test of how things have changed since I was last involved, FlyTampa Kai Tak v2 on the old Rwy 13 approach in PMDG's newest 747-400 is completely transformed: a whole new level of fidelity, detail, smoothness and fluidity with FPS hovering closer to 60Hz than 30Hz using VSync and triple buffering. By way of comparison, using cutting-edge kit about 6 years ago, as I recall, it was a struggle (involving big compromises on the sliders) to get to 20Hz. I have found the same is true of other heavy airports: EGLL and EDDF (MegaAirport Pro) and KLAX and KJFK (FSDT) but it's at Kai Tak that you really need the smoothness and, finally, it's achievable. The level of immersion is now very impressive throughout the sim. It is no longer the frustrating experience of 6/7 years ago.

[vc10man 732]

I have the same CPU. What motherboard and cooling are you using to drive it to 5Ghx?

[tfm 169]

Actually it's at 5.1GHz to be precise.

Motherboard = Asus Maximus X Code

Cooler = Noctua DH15

[N405GJ 36]

I have to admit I am curious as to what your CPU temps are running 5.1Ghz on an air cooler. I have my 7700K clocked to 5.1Ghz and it is always around 45C, but that is with a custom loop.

[davidzill 8]

2 hours ago, N405GJ said:

I have to admit I am curious as to what your CPU temps are running 5.1Ghz on an air cooler. I have my 7700K clocked to 5.1Ghz and it is always around 45C, but that is with a custom loop.

I have an 8700K @ 5.3 ghz. 27c idle 50's full load. Hyperthreading off. 

[harvester21 34]

5 hours ago, davidzill said:

I have an 8700K @ 5.3 ghz. 27c idle 50's full load. Hyperthreading off. 

What kind of cooler are you using, David?

[zmak 331]

2 minutes ago, harvester21 said:

What kind of cooler are you using, David?

See his signature

[harvester21 34]

1 minute ago, zmak said:

See his signature

Wow, I need more coffee... I read your signature and completely missed it the first time... disregard :)

[tfm 169]

9 hours ago, N405GJ said:

I have to admit I am curious as to what your CPU temps are running 5.1Ghz on an air cooler. I have my 7700K clocked to 5.1Ghz and it is always around 45C, but that is with a custom loop.

38-50C in normal use, 80-98C under P3D. I’m sure there’s some throttling going on, but it doesn’t seem noticeable in the sim.

Edited August 28, 2018 by tfm

[snapshot21 254]

Have you guys tried delidding? Its now safe with all the delid tools currently available. It did wonders to my CPU temps. Around 20c drop.

[tfm 169]

Wow no I’ve never thought it worthwhile but 20C is huge.

[vc10man 732]

On 8/28/2018 at 8:45 AM, harvester21 said:

Wow, I need more coffee... I read your signature and completely missed it the first time... disregard 🙂

Ditto here too!

 

On 8/29/2018 at 1:54 PM, snapshot21 said:

Have you guys tried delidding? Its now safe with all the delid tools currently available. It did wonders to my CPU temps. Around 20c drop.

I thought the i7-8086K was already no need to de-lid?

[downscc 1,327]

20 hours ago, vc10man said:

Ditto here too!

 

I thought the i7-8086K was already no need to de-lid? 

I've read that the 8086K is just an 8700K that has gone through tighter test specs.  It's advertised to hit 5GHz but only on one core, you might get lucky and find one that does that on all cores but that is just luck of the draw.  Were I to do my 8700K build over I would definitely delid!  Right now I'm stuck with stock turbo speeds of 4.7GHz to keep things below 70C.  Another 20C would be HUUUGE!

[vc10man 732]

Thanks for that heads-up, Dan,but having never de-lidded, would not want to take the gamble and blow a $400 CPU. Maybe I will just stick to the 5GHz.

[davidzill 8]

On ‎8‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 12:40 AM, harvester21 said:

What kind of cooler are you using, David?

Kraken X62 with puish/pull fans