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Ultimate Traffic Live Liveries

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Ultimate Traffic is terrible anyways. The injection of traffic is a horrible concept. Pushing back from the gate and ZAP a plane teleports right in front of me, sometimes the plane is big enough to cause a "object collision". I was so mad when I saw I had to do manual labor to get accurate liveries after paying 50 dollars. After watching planes just zap out of no where into empty parking spots It made me just delete it entirely and do my AI traffic on my own. What the folks over at alpha india group do there is worth more than the 50 dollars I paid for UT. 

 
 
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10 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

It does indeed, it also means that the CRJ100/200, and DC10 are available as well.

Wow, that's impressive! Decided to check it out and low and behold, I indeed found converted ERJ and CRJ models after installing American, Delta and United regional carriers. Very impressive. So I copied over the new models and swapped them with old ones I already had. For now, I won't be using AIG's traffic, for a number of reasons. One of which seems to be that it doesn't use any of the aircraft that I already have. I had hoped it might scan existing AI liveries and link to whatever it finds rather then downloading everything new. That's sort of disappointing. Fortunately it uses the addon.xml method, so even with packages installed, it's easy to disable.

However, I've long felt that the pauses I get when on approach have to do with UTL injecting a ton of aircraft at the destination airport, so if I can get that to go away, then it might be worth it to literally throw away the tens of hours I put into expanding and organizing my UTL AI fleet...

A related question: Because currently the traffic density is all set to a minimum of 1% in the traffic BGLs, everything will always show up. I was wondering how realistic this is? Typically a setting of 60-70% is supposedly 'realistic', but for as far as I can see, 100% means showing every aircraft that's assigned to a route, correct? So wouldn't that mean that 100% is realistic, for the reason that you're seeing entire fleets of all airlines? I'm just concerned that if airports are packed due to tons of aircraft sitting around doing nothing, there won't be any place for me to park...

Benjamin van Soldt

Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case

 Using UTL over the AIG plans is highly unusual as the AIG plans are far more up to date and optimized, they include accurate fleets both in type and numbers as well as more varied altitudes used in the plans. UTL doesn't bring much to the table except the airway/route thing that isn't realistic at all (just basic plans created using the built-in FS flightplanner is all they are) and even then most city pairings don't have routes included so they fly direct anyways. Sticking with UTL because of existing repaints etc? As you add airlines, you simply remove the ones that you have acquired already and just disable that airline in UTL. Believe me, I understand the heartbreak I've got about 60gb of airline AI repaints from years of creating my AI collection and have already removed about 500.

 For the traffic density you can use AIFP to randomize the % to whatever you want, it only takes a few seconds per airline. AIG is also working on adding the density adjustment into AIGAIM as well. 

Edited by Dave_YVR

i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200,  RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024

I'm not one to use to systems side by side... Just a personal preference. If I find that one is superior, I'll switch to it and get rid of the first one ASAP. So, I decided to give AIG's AIM a chance, given that it's installation routine is overall very clean and efficient. I'm in the process of installing... well, everything they currently offer! But it's clear some prominent airlines are missing. So I'll be supplementing with my own traffic as well, until AIG comes with updated packages for those airlines (Alitalia is a prominent one that's missing). I'll give it a test flight into KLAX tomorrow, and see how it goes! With American, Delta, United, Southwest and many other major carriers represented, I think it should be a pretty good benchmark. I'm hoping that the pauses I've traditionally had in that area will be diimished after disabling UTL.

One question though: I always enjoyed looking at UTL's traffic board. Is there something similar that's compatible with default bgl-type traffic?

Benjamin van Soldt

Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case

Thanks for the suggestion mark, looks pretty slick!

So I went ahead and installed all of AIG's packages, then supplemented that with some 114 other airlines that I compiled myself - all in all, that took about 8 hours total work. As AIG will release their own probably more accurate packages, I will disable mine. But for now I'm happy with all the time I put into expanding my UTL/FLAi hangar, as it made it incredibly easy to compile bgl traffic for all those other airlines - the repaint were already installed, so it was just a question of opening AIFP, re-assigning the aircraft, and compiling.

UTL is now completely disabled, though not yet uninstalled. My P3D internal traffic slider is at 100%, and my airports are full, but not to the point of bursting (to my surprise). Frankly, I think it was worth it. It's something of a relief to see CRJ200 and ERJ aircraft taxiing around, looking completely fine. The conversions I had done myself never looked too good...

Thanks Dave, for convincing me!

Benjamin van Soldt

Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case

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Can someone just tell me where the models UTLive uses, lives? I am not seeing the number of regionals I think i should be and I want to check the airline codes they are using to make sure my AFCADs has them.. or change the code. 

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