Simicro

Need your advice to choose a Reality XP Garmin

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Hi all,

I like VOR and NDB navigation but not to "die stupid" as we say in french, I want to learn about GPS.

I'll get the Vertex Diamond DA62 (Sean Moloney) when it is released so I will be in position to learn the latest avionics with the G1000 PFD/GPS/Flight Planner... that will equip the plane by default if I understand correctly.

For the time being, I'm looking for a GPS for my A2A V35 and possibly other small G/A aircrafts in the future.

I made a choice: it will be a Reality XP.

I eliminate the GTN 750 because I'm sensitive to aesthetics and the 750 is too big for a small cockpit in my personal preference.

Remaining options:

  • GTN 650
  • GNS 530 V2
  • GNS 430W V2

I am leaning towards a 430 or 530 because I find the last generation 650 way to "cluttered" and too many colors for the display... in the end hard to read?

I like the "legacy" 430 / 450 for their symbology and reduced number of colours.

If you own a Reality XP Garmin, I would appreciate your feedback and advice.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Simicro said:

I find the last generation 650 way to "cluttered" and too many colors for the display.

 

1 hour ago, Simicro said:

I like the "legacy" 430 / 450 for their symbology and reduced number of colours.

Why the issues with colors?

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I own both the GNS530/430 and the GTN750/650.

Older airplane cockpits are best equipped with GNS gauges which are appropriate to the age of the avionics in the cockpit.

However, if you have the choice, I would strongly recommend the GTN gauges!

This is what real aircraft owners install in their cockpits nowadays.

The GTN technology is so much better that it truly makes the GNS gauges appear like something from the past.

Personally, I have a GTN750 in my a2a Bonanza and love it.  It looks like it belongs there and gives me lots of valuable information in all stages of flight.

The GTN650 has a much smaller screen and as such is less useful.

I have one installed in my F33 Bonanza, but only because the 750 will not fit.

Hope this helps you in your deliberations :smile:

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Hi Franck,

On the 430 and 450 colours are: black bacground and mainly blue, pink, green.

On the 650 there are many more colours but with more information I am aware. But sometimes too much info can "kill" the info. Please note: my personal preference, no offense intended to users who like the 650.

PS:Which XP Garmin do you use?

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Hi Bert,

Thanks for your helpful comments and return on experience!

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I did not want to bother you by asking for a screenshot but I thought about it so thanks!

I am wondering, are there options to change the colour code and to choose the information displayed on the moving map? Eg: don't show waypoints you are not using?

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Yes, you can declutter the map in steps and you can turn off the terrain.

Send me a PM with your email address and I can send you some screenshots, if you are interested.

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That is very much appreciated Bert, sending you a PM.

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10 minutes ago, Simicro said:

PS:Which XP Garmin do you use?

If XP means RXP and not XPlane.  I use RXP GNS 430 and 530 in older aircraft models where as Bert P said they just go along with the aesthetics of those models better.  For both I use GNS v2 for the added functionality, lower use of resources, improved resolution, and much more up to date nav database.  Also the ability to import .fpl flight plan files from FltPlan.com and Skyvector,com. Good examples of aircraft I use them in would be the Milvix B55 Baron and Milviz C310 Redux.  . 

I use the RXP GTN series in more modern configured aircraft.  Good examples would be the Real Air Turbine Duke V2, my HondaJet HA420, the A2A Cessna 182, and Carenado models like the F406 Caravan II and their Baron 58.

Compared to the legacy series, the GNS v2 offers greater value.  With each GNS you purchase you get (2) two GNS gauges.  ex. 430_1 and 430_2.  Same for the 530v2.  With the Legacy GNS that functionality costs you more.  The RXP GTN models are also packaged as two gauges per model.

Wow! Just noticed this is my 3,000th post here.

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Oh guys, looks like you have the complete collection 😉

Bert: good idea, will try that. Please disregard my PM and save time. Too late maybe...

Franck: yes I meant RXP. Many thanks for sharing comprehensively your experience. The Bonanza V35 could be considered as a " older aircraft " I believe, so elegible for 430/450?

Last question if I may: having 2 gauges/GPS: the interest is you can display 2 differents things/pages on 2 screens?

And congrats for your 3000!

Oh the choice for me will be tough!

 

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8 minutes ago, Simicro said:

Last question if I may: having 2 gauges/GPS: the interest is you can display 2 differents things/pages on 2 screens? 

There are more benefits to having two gauges per model  For example, I use my 430_1 and/or 530_1 to store flight plans that I would use for longer trips.  Usually in aircraft that fly higher and faster if they also have fuel capacity.  All of that otherwise known as range. Examples would be the Caravan II, Turbine Duke v2, and Cessna 310. 

I use 430_2 and/or 530_2 in aircraft that I use for shorter and perhaps sightseeing trips, and store appropriate flight plans in them. For Cessna 182, Mooney 201, Cessna 337, etc.

Another way to do similar would be if your simulation aircraft fly from distinctly different geographic regions.  Say for instance you are based in St. Louis, Missouri, but have a second base of operations in say Ft. Myers, Florida.  You could configure _1 into aircraft and store plans in  _1 for flights in or from the central USA, and use _2 for aircraft you use for flights in or from say the Florida gulf and Caribbean regions.

See the various flexibility?

By the Way, I do much the same with my GTN_1's and _2's.

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I see Bert. Thanks again for all! Enough of your time for me today 😉

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I get it Franck. More displays but also more storage of flight plans of different kinds on each.

Many thanks to you too! Enough of your time on me for today 😉

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23 minutes ago, Simicro said:

And congrats for your 3000!

Thanks.  I have been here since 1998 but had two long "leaves of absence" when my career and business demands kept me away from simulation, which I have embraced since 1982.

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So here is a different perspective on them. I own both and I have the 430/530 in my smaller GA airplanes that I fly for an hour or two with 1 maybe 2 nav aids. I love that you need to twist and turn dials and I have them mapped on my Saitek panels, so it feels realistic.  For the longer flights with more complicated airways, I use the GTN 750 as you can “program” it much faster. I don’t import flight plans, even though for both units you can. I like a bit of old school sometimes with the 430/530 units, but when you have to deal with complicated flight plans…no.

Depends on how you fly and what you are looking for.

But you cannot go wrong with neither.

Hope that helps you.

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35 minutes ago, kowen said:

But you cannot go wrong with neither.

Whoops!  Either!  LOL!

 

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Hi all, to inform you that I have narrowed down my choice to RXP GNS 430 or GTN 650. Now I need to make the final decision...

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Hi Tony,

Don’t know if it was mentioned - I think the GTN has a newer database - and the GTN has airways for IFR flight plans built in - the GNS does not... Makes it massively easier to enter an IFR flight plan... That said - I believe Little Nav Map can export to both units - so if you plan to use that method to input flight plan - the data entry aspect for airways isn’t really applicable... I’d suggest the GTN unless you really want old school - wish I had 13K to replace the GNS in my real plane...

The GNS interface is old, clunky, and not intuitive -  the GTN interface is the exact opposite...

Just make sure whatever plane you really want to see it in supports the same type of unit...

Just my two cents - take it for what it’s worth... 

Regards,

Scott

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I'd still go gtn 750 no contest.  Putting that in a bonanza is a realistic addition.  I mean it's your money and all but why not get the best avionics?  The situational awareness / map is far better on the 750 and inputting flight plans is a lot easier and quicker.

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Scott and Ryan, your views and infos are appreciated!

I also watched more videos and I am now leaning towards modern avionics (to see how it's like to use it while I know already the GNS)... so the RXP GTN 650... for the Bonanza and in the future small GA AC. Because as a personal preference I like medium/small devices.

Thanks again guys.

Will post my final decision when it's done.

PS: Scott; what do you have GTN 650 or 750? I mean in P3D.

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I have them all for what it's worth

In the flightsim world I believe the majority of add-ons support the gtn 750 natively (meaning 3d vc support).  However many were built for the F1 units so you'll have to mod the planes for full rxp use.  PM me for details

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Thanks for your offer Ryan. I'll try to stay with aircrafts that support natively RXP for 3D VC. But in case I will PM you.

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