Aviator64

More G1000 nonsense from Carenado

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I opened a support ticket with Carenado concering the apparent inability to load and save flight plans. This was their response:

Greetings,
Since this AC uses a Navigraph Database Flight Plan importing is not available.
Regards

Carenado.

There is a certain useful word that can be conveniently disguised as a cough.

Considering that the PMDG 737NGX, the Aerosoft CRJ700, and numerous others use Navigraph data and can easily load flight plans created with an external program, I have a hard time accepting this "explanation".

It is so disappointing - their DA62 is beautifully modeled, and has great flying characteristics. It is just such a shame that their G1000 is so haphazardly programmed; not just this but all the other issues mentioned in this forum. More bugs than an ant farm.

I hope Carenado reads this forum. They are not getting any more of my money until they fix the DA62.

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Yep sad to see. They are over trying to suck every penny they can get out of the X-Plain crowd now and once that is done they will most likely fade further into the sunset. I personally am waiting for the release of the Vertx DA-62. I think it is going to be a real crowd pleaser and another classic.

As far as reading this Forum? Probably not. They simply do not care. Never have.

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39 minutes ago, Aviator64 said:

I opened a support ticket with Carenado concering the apparent inability to load and save flight plans

As I remember, they mentioned that from the beginning, that's why I discarded them for this plane. I'm now waiting for the Vertx version that will hopefully be released before the end of this year, which a fully programmed G1000.

Cheers, Ed

 

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"

Greetings,
Since this AC uses a Navigraph Database Flight Plan importing is not available.
Regards

Carenado.

"

Make sense.  😂😜   They probably have a bridge to sell too.  That deal won't fly either.  😉

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Not to be pessimistic, but I've already asked twice on the DA62 topic, what navdata version the Vertx DA62 will use, since RealAir Duke, Legacy did both used FSX default, I had to purchase a GTN to be able to use and save a realistic plan in either of those offerings.  No one has answered yet so assuming that the navdata will still be fsx default you probably won't be able to create or save a flight plan in that one either.  That said, I already own the Carenado but if the Vertx proves to be better, I'll get that one too.  

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39 minutes ago, jalbino59 said:

Not to be pessimistic, but I've already asked twice on the DA62 topic, what navdata version the Vertx DA62 will use, since RealAir Duke, Legacy did both used FSX default, I had to purchase a GTN to be able to use and save a realistic plan in either of those offerings.  No one has answered yet so assuming that the navdata will still be fsx default you probably won't be able to create or save a flight plan in that one either.  That said, I already own the Carenado but if the Vertx proves to be better, I'll get that one too.  

No one knows the answer to that question except the beta testers and they are most likely under an NDA. My guess is that it won't be using the FSX Data base because it is being designed for Prepar3d only according to the info that as been released so far.

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2 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

 My guess is that it won't be using the FSX Data base because it is being designed for Prepar3d only according to the info that as been released so far.

P3D has a different data base than FSX?

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5 minutes ago, FDEdev said:

P3D has a different data base than FSX?

LOL....since it's a silly question then I will give a silly answer....."Sure it does, its a P3D data base" LOL! It's magic like RTX.

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I don't know why you consider this a silly question. AFAIK there's no Navaids, rwys, variation etc. difference between FSX and P3D. 

 

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11 minutes ago, FDEdev said:

I don't know why you consider this a silly question. AFAIK there's no Navaids, rwys, variation etc. difference between FSX and P3D. 

 

This is also my understanding, nothing silly at all about that exchange except for the answer.  Maybe P3D 4.4 has some changes coming for this which is the only way I see an NDA would apply and justify not answering the question.  Who knows. But as it stands now there is no evidence the Vertx offering will allow flight plans, or departure procedures to be programmed into the G1000, or that the navdata will be update-able. 

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1 hour ago, jalbino59 said:

No one has answered yet so assuming that the navdata will still be fsx default you probably won't be able to create or save a flight plan in that one either

This question was answered before, but I often read in different forums, so I don't exactly remember on which place I read the statement from Vertx, that their G1000 will be able to create flightplans right into the instrument. Try a search on FSElite.net, it was probably there.

Cheers, Ed

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Oh OK...I get it! Didn't realize who you guys were at first.

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9 minutes ago, edpatino said:

This question was answered before, but I often read in different forums, so I don't exactly remember on which place I read the statement from Vertx, that their G1000 will be able to create flightplans right into the instrument. Try a search on FSElite.net, it was probably there.

Cheers, Ed

The only thing confirmed was the ability to enter waypoints. 

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12 minutes ago, jalbino59 said:

The only thing confirmed was the ability to enter waypoints. 

I honestly I don't remember exactly if it's going to be just that way. If it works like the GTN for the flightplans, to me it would be more than Ok.

Cheers, Ed

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3 minutes ago, edpatino said:

I honestly I don't remember exactly if it's going to be just that way. If it works like the GTN for the flightplans, to me it would be more than Ok.

Cheers, Ed

I'm with you sir. I'm looking forward to this release as well. Just that there is nothing to indicate right now that Vertx DA62 would address the OP's issue.

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31 minutes ago, jalbino59 said:

I'm with you sir. I'm looking forward to this release as well. Just that there is nothing to indicate right now that Vertx DA62 would address the OP's issue.

It’s Ok. What I’m sure I read somewhere, and I think it was at FSElite is that the G1000 would work as it’s real world counterpart, a totally different beast if compared to the Carenado’s G1000.

Cheers, Ed 

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Look here, a very nive video originally posted by @kymh in a now closed thread about the DA-62:

 

Enjoy, and thanks to @kymh

Cheers, Ed

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Since this is the Carenado DA62 forum, it would be IMO fair to point out that the Vertx DA62 will be available only for P3D.

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If memory serves me correctly, I believe it will be available only for version 4.

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On 11/24/2018 at 4:11 PM, FDEdev said:

Since this is the Carenado DA62 forum, it would be IMO fair to point out that the Vertx DA62 will be available only for P3D.

Yes, you're right, this is a Carenado forum, but I have yet to see a single post from Carenado here 😉

On 11/24/2018 at 6:31 PM, raymie said:

If memory serves me correctly, I believe it will be available only for version 4.

Yes, and that's indeed very good news, so no limitations from an old code for this one!.

Cheers, Ed

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Finally, got an answer regarding the nav-data for the Vertx DA62, and as I suspected, it is absolutely sim default (fsx or p3d, take your choice its the same thing). So the only way to make it truly realistic "real world like G1000", and by this I mean unlocking the departure and approach procedures and make the database updateble, is to replace the sim default navigation data with FS aerodata (a formidable process for the less technical  flight simmer, and an addition 8.50 euro per month or 19.50 for the year).  

No number of real world Garmin manuals will change that (all of the manuals are freely available at the Garmin website by the way).

I have the Carenado version, it's not that bad, but again, I will be purchasing the Vertx version and doing all the aformentioned updates, and optional FSAeroData, but back again to the OP's concern.  This aircraft will not resolve his issues, not the out of the box version, not without extra expense and possible data corruption if your not aware and capable of modifying (CORE) FSX, or P3D files. 

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1 hour ago, edpatino said:

Yes, you're right, this is a Carenado forum, but I have yet to see a single post from Carenado here

 

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1 hour ago, FDEdev said:

Have you ever seen someone from Carenado posting something here on these forums?. It's what I say.

Cheers, Ed

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6 hours ago, edpatino said:

Have you ever seen someone from Carenado posting something here on these forums?. It's what I say.

Sorry, it has been some time ago so I cannot put my finger on any quotes  However, I do remember that some posters have noted that Carenado does not monitor this forum--their Facebook page is the only source they do keep tabs on. If that is correct, I suspect they do not monitor this forum because it is an "unofficial" one ("User to User Support Forum"). For any "technical" support on their payware products, you must submit a support ticket from their website.

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