39 minutes ago, Cruachan said:

Quite clearly your needs are somewhat different as are many of the solutions.

Yes, quite true!

Pete

 

13 hours ago, ZKOKQ said:

I did try unlimited with vsync on, but was not very fluid.. I have ( in my sig) LG 43" Monitor, and has a max refresh rate of 60HZ. Should I lower the refresh rate in NCP to 30 ? or leave at 60 with limited FR set at 30 in P3D

Hi Julian,

This is my understanding:

VSync enabled in Prepar3D will try to match the frame rate (set at Unlimited) with the refresh frequency of the monitor, in this case 60Hz. It is unrealistic to expect to be able to achieve 60fps or more consistently in Prepar3D. In fact, much of the time frame rates will be below 60/sec, in which case VSync enabled will drop your frame rate by another 50%, i.e. to well below 30fps which, for most of us, is unacceptable.

You can get around this by limiting the frame rate in NVidia Profile Inspector (NPI) to, say, 29.5 (there isn’t a 30 option) for Prepar3D. Be sure to apply this change before exiting NPI. Now, when you use VSync (+/- Triple buffering (TB) if you have the headroom) along with Unlimited then frame rates will be pegged around 30fps which provides decent smooth performance for most of the time unless, of course, demands on the sim drop frame rates below 30fps. That’s were settings and slider restraint come into play and you should create and save individual Display Profiles to suit these varying circumstances and your rig’s capabilities.

Regards,

Mike

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by Cruachan

45 minutes ago, Cruachan said:

Hi Pete, Ray

All I’ve been trying to convey is that for my flight simming aspirations I have in place what is required to fulfill my expectations. I don’t see this as a competition whereby we each try to outdo what can be achieved on similar and dissimilar hardware. 

Best regards to you both,

Mike

Mike, I can assure you my comment wasn’t meant as some type of competition. I look for the most demanding airport in my collection and then tweak the settings for it.

Looking towards Heathrow from the west also takes in London in the distance and that view of Aerosoft Heathrow plus a couple hundred Ai pushes my system to its limits.

I was just curious how your setup would cope with it but since you don’t fly into heavy airports there’s no need for you to respond.

My best to you too.

9 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Mike, I can assure you my comment wasn’t meant as some type of competition. I look for the most demanding airport in my collection and then tweak the settings for it.

Looking towards Heathrow from the west also takes in London in the distance and that view of Aerosoft Heathrow plus a couple hundred Ai pushes my system to its limits.

I was just curious how your setup would cope with it but since you don’t fly into heavy airports there’s no need for you to respond.

My best to you too.

Hi Ray,

Perhaps it wasn’t the most appropriate word, but I’m sure you get my drift. For many it is quite competitive and their posts betray that fact. I should qualify my statement by saying that if I read that someone with similar hardware and settings is seeing better performance then I would wish to know why. That’s only reasonable and unlikely to lead to unnecessary friction or verbal acrimony. 

Best,

Mike

26 minutes ago, Cruachan said:

 

You can get around this by limiting screen refresh in NVidia Profile Inspector  (NPI) to, say 29.5

(there isn’t a 30 option) for Prepar3D. Be sure to apply this change before exiting NPI. Now, when you use VSync (+/- Triple buffering (TB) if you have the headroom) along with Unlimited then frame rates will be pegged around 30fps which provides decent smooth performance for most of the time unless, of course, demands on the sim drop frame rates below 30fps. That’s were settings and slider restraint come into play and you should create and save individual Display Profiles to suit these varying circumstances and your rig’s capabilities.

Regards,

Mike

Mike, are you referring to the frame rate limiter in NPI..??

Thanks.

22 minutes ago, SunDevil56 said:

Mike, are you referring to the frame rate limiter in NPI..??

Woops, my bad! You are absolutely correct. I’ve updated the post accordingly. This is what happens when you draw on stuff from the top of your head without first checking!

Thanks for the heads up, as it were, and thanks for this timely intervention 🤓

Regards,

Mike

1 hour ago, Cruachan said:

You can get around this by limiting the frame rate in NVidia Profile Inspector (NPI) to, say, 29.5 (there isn’t a 30 option)

I don't use NPI, but in the nVidia control panel I do see both 29 and 30, no 29.5. Maybe it depends on the screen (or projectors in my case).

However, this does seem to vary with nVidia driver versions. Sometimes, with 3 identical projectors, all HDMI but connected to DPs via adapters, two allow 30 and one not, only 29. Very odd.

Pete

 

10 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

I don't use NPI, but in the nVidia control panel I do see both 29 and 30, no 29.5. Maybe it depends on the screen (or projectors in my case).

However, this does seem to vary with nVidia driver versions. Sometimes, with 3 identical projectors, all HDMI but connected to DPs via adapters, two allow 30 and one not, only 29. Very odd.

Hi Pete, 

I think you must be correct. I don’t see that option in my NCP. I use a single monitor linked to my 1080Ti via a DisplayPort connection.

Regards,

Mike

Hi Ray,

I note in your PC spec you give the size of your normal SSD, but not this one:

Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD

I assume this is your Windows system disk?  Travelling the sim world as you do I wondered how you get on for space on that, as it does seem more and more add-ons dump stuff onto the C drive without option.

Pete

 

 

37 minutes ago, Cruachan said:

Woops, my bad! You are absolutely correct. I’ve updated the post accordingly. This is what happens when you draw on stuff from the top of your head without first checking!

Thanks for the heads up, as it were, and thanks for this timely intervention 🤓

Regards,

Mike

No worries Mike, I just wanted to be clear on which setting you meant by that...😁

31 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

Hi Ray,

I note in your PC spec you give the size of your normal SSD, but not this one:

Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD

I assume this is your Windows system disk?  Travelling the sim world as you do I wondered how you get on for space on that, as it does seem more and more add-ons dump stuff onto the C drive without option.

Pete

Hi Pete,

That’s precisely why I opted for the 2TB Version. Windows 10 Pro 64bit resides on this SSD along with a Steam game and a few utilities under a dual-boot arrangement. Otherwise not being used much at the moment. Waiting for Prepar3D V5 and perhaps also a game or 3 where I can start to explore VR with my Oculus Rift - still in its box from Amazon alongside my Prescription Lenses Oculus Adapter. An impulsive purchase that is quite likely to be superseded before I get around to trying it out over the next few months!

Regards,

Mike

 

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by Cruachan

16 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

Hi Ray,

I note in your PC spec you give the size of your normal SSD, but not this one:

Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD

I assume this is your Windows system disk?  Travelling the sim world as you do I wondered how you get on for space on that, as it does seem more and more add-ons dump stuff onto the C drive without option.

Pete

Hi Pete,

It’s 500Gb and yes, my Windows drive. I was aware an increasing number of airports want to be installed under My Documents . How full it gets remains to be seen but unless I go for these huge Orbx scenery packages (unlikely) I should be okay.

I was running out of characters for my sig!

Virtually all the airports that "want to be installed under My Documents" do not need to be installed there at all

and it is not intended that they should.

I submit this, not because I want to be shot down like everyone else, but because it is the case.

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by nolonger

5 minutes ago, nolonger said:

Virtually all the airports that "want to be installed under My Documents" do not need to be installed there at all

and it is not intended that they should.

I submit this, not because I want to be shot down like everone else, but because it is the case.

I believe you are correct about this. My only concern is how P3D autodiscovers add-ons installed elsewhere which is why, currently, I accept the default installation path in user documents on the C drive. Also, conveniently, it keeps everything together. However, as Ray has pointed out, this could become an issue as these installations grow ever larger.

Mike

13 minutes ago, nolonger said:

Virtually all the airports that "want to be installed under My Documents" do not need to be installed there at all

and it is not intended that they should.

I submit this, not because I want to be shot down like everone else, but because it is the case.

Where do you install yours to? I don't know if this is covered in the SDK but developers do seem to use that location, right or wrong.