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Considering a monitor upgrade..... thoughts?

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I've really enjoyed my current Acer Xr34.... I've had it for almost 3 years now. 

I am considering getting a new monitor to take advantage of newer technology. 4k is a possibility. I don't think I could go down in size though...... If i did it would have to be to a 32" non-ultra wide or something like that so I would gain some screen height. I will likely keep the Xr 34 as a second monitor for EFB, flight planning purposes, etc. 

Any suggestions? 

FYI, I am running a GTX1080 on an i7-6700k @ 4.5 Ghz

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11 minutes ago, avi8tir said:

I've really enjoyed my current Acer Xr34.... I've had it for almost 3 years now. 

I am considering getting a new monitor to take advantage of newer technology. 4k is a possibility. I don't think I could go down in size though...... If i did it would have to be to a 32" non-ultra wide or something like that so I would gain some screen height. I will likely keep the Xr 34 as a second monitor for EFB, flight planning purposes, etc. 

Any suggestions? 

FYI, I am running a GTX1080 on an i7-6700k @ 4.5 Ghz

A lot of people myself included are just buying 4k tv’s and use them for a monitor.  Works very well

Vizio E series or Samsung 7100 series are very good on a budget.  If I wanted to spend a little more money I would look into a Sony.

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50 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

A lot of people myself included are just buying 4k tv’s and use them for a monitor.  Works very well

Vizio E series or Samsung 7100 series are very good on a budget.  If I wanted to spend a little more money I would look into a Sony.

There have to be drawbacks to that, arent there? 

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2 hours ago, avi8tir said:

I am considering getting a new monitor to take advantage of newer technology. 4k is a possibility. I don't think I could go down in size though...... If i did it would have to be to a 32" non-ultra wide or something like that so I would gain some screen height. I will likely keep the Xr 34 as a second monitor for EFB, flight planning purposes, etc. 

Any suggestions? 

FYI, I am running a GTX1080 on an i7-6700k @ 4.5 Ghz

See my sig for system details. I’ve had a BenQ PD3200 UHD monitor for a week now and couldn’t be happier. Performance is stunning with fps matching the refresh rate of 60Hz. Crucially it can also run at 30Hz so I will switch to that when I add an Ai package.

The 1080 is the minimum for UHD but you may need to adjust your settings to keep decent fps.

The BenQ is expensive but it’s a quality display. A TV is an alternative but for good quality text you need one that supports chroma 4:4:4 or HDR. Not all TVs do so do your homework.

The greatest benefit is cockpit gauges. Every subdivision is visible. It’s greatly increased my enjoyment of flying.

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2 hours ago, avi8tir said:

I've really enjoyed my current Acer Xr34.... I've had it for almost 3 years now. 

I am considering getting a new monitor to take advantage of newer technology. 4k is a possibility. I don't think I could go down in size though...... If i did it would have to be to a 32" non-ultra wide or something like that so I would gain some screen height. I will likely keep the Xr 34 as a second monitor for EFB, flight planning purposes, etc. 

Any suggestions? 

FYI, I am running a GTX1080 on an i7-6700k @ 4.5 Ghz

I run a BenQ PD3200U as well.  

As I said in some other thread, I had never run in 4K before, and it is so different than 1080.

One thing about a move to 4K that affected my system (but not necessarily yours) -- with 4.3 I had to start running my 8700K with hyperthreading on.  This makes sense as so much of P3D's terrain loading system is now multithreaded.    I have yet to test this with 4.4.  I may not bother as my rig maintains the 30 refresh/30 framelock so well now (read = smooth) in all conditions that I'm very satisfied.

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1 hour ago, avi8tir said:

There have to be drawbacks to that, arent there? 

If there is I haven’t experienced any yet and I was a little skeptical going in.  My 4k tv sits right next to my $1000 acer ultra wide.  Picture quality is very similar.  I was pretty impressed for a $340 TV.

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I think that the Samsung Odyssey+ is by far the best monitor on the market today. You see everything in 3D. Its so big the bezel in the outer extremities of your peripheral vision and it has built in head tracking.

Not to put to fine a point on it, its like you are in the airplane!😁

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13 minutes ago, Avidean said:

I think that the Samsung Odyssey+ is by far the best monitor on the market today. You see everything in 3D. Its so big the bezel in the outer extremities of your peripheral vision and it has built in head tracking.

Not to put to fine a point on it, its like you are in the airplane!😁

But it’s a headset isn’t it? The OP specifically asked about monitors / TV.

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Its a monitor that's strapped to your head. Is it not?

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19 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

And you can't see your home cockpit overhead switch panel.

In VR who needs it. Just sell it to fund the transition! 😀

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On 12/10/2018 at 12:18 PM, mpw8679 said:

A lot of people myself included are just buying 4k tv’s and use them for a monitor.

TVs are okay substitutions for cheaper monitors, however, things like G-Sync or Free-Sync and high refresh rate won't be on a TV. (Refresh rate can go up to 120Hz, but those are pretty expensive.)

Most TVs are 60Hz, and while I doubt anybody can manage 4K with 60 FPS in P3D, you might want to play or use other games or other software, and you might want more than 60 FPS.

Also, if you use dynamic reflections, (as described on the FlightSimLabs forums) your graphics card might not be able to handle 4K. 

Just sayin', if you want a decent monitor, that won't require you getting a GTX 2080 TI, then I would really suggest the Dell Alienware AW3418HW.

It's 160Hz, IPS panel, 34" and has G-Sync

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12 minutes ago, arwasairl said:

TVs are okay substitutions for cheaper monitors, however, things like G-Sync or Free-Sync and high refresh rate won't be on a TV. (Refresh rate can go up to 120Hz, but those are pretty expensive.)

None of which benefit P3D whatsoever.

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1 minute ago, mpw8679 said:

None of which benefit P3D whatsoever.

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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15 minutes ago, arwasairl said:

Most TVs are 60Hz, and while I doubt anybody can manage 4K with 60 FPS in P3D, you might want to play or use other games or other software, and you might want more than 60 FPS.

 

Most if not all 4K pc monitors are limited to 60hz

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17 minutes ago, arwasairl said:

 

Just sayin', if you want a decent monitor, that won't require you getting a GTX 2080 TI, then I would really suggest the Dell Alienware AW3418HW.

 

U really don’t know what u are talking about.  Ran a 4k monitor with a gtx980 with no issues.

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3 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

U really don’t know what u are talking about.  Ran a 4k monitor with a gtx980 with no issues.

Wow Matt, it's like I'm being arrested and you're saying, "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be used against you in a court of law." 😛

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24 minutes ago, arwasairl said:

Wow Matt, it's like I'm being arrested and you're saying, "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be used against you in a court of law." 😛

It’s all good.  Your a good sport

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5 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

It’s all good.  Your a good sport

Thanks officer 

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41 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

None of which benefit P3D whatsoever.

I'd quite flying (or fly a lot less than I do now)  if had to put up with 30Hz or even 60Hz on a TV...

...oh it matters!

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1 minute ago, FunknNasty said:

I'd quite flying (or fly a lot less than I do now)  if had to put up with 30Hz or even 60Hz on a TV...

...oh it matters!

Please explain your reasoning 

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12 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

Please explain your reasoning 

I tell you what ....you do some leg work on the subject and we'll reason together. 

You can start by showing me a video someone flying into KLAX in 4K ...while panning around inside a quality payware airliner cockpit. It would be really cool if the video had a reasonable amount of traffic with Orbix So Cal as backdrop. 

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5 minutes ago, FunknNasty said:

 

I tell you what ....you do some leg work on the subject and we'll reason together. 

You can start by showing me a video someone flying into KLAX in 4K ...while panning around inside a quality payware airliner cockpit. It would be really cool if the video had a reasonable amount of traffic with Orbix So Cal as backdrop. 

YouTube is just a click away.  I’m just asking for a simple explanation from your reply to my post.  I didn’t think it was a tough question.  Let me help with a question.  What is a better alternative to a 30/60hz TV and why?  What display do u sim with?

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Just now, mpw8679 said:

YouTube is just a click away.  I’m just asking for a simple explanation from your reply to my post.  I didn’t think it was a tough question.  Let me help with a question.  What is a better alternative to a 30/60hz TV and why?  What display do u sim with?

There isn't a simple explanation ....nothing about running a sim such as P3D can be put in a nutshell.....

I'll give you this little tidbit from Steve W:

"A point often overlooked is that a human can see the difference between 110 and 120Hz, but a slightly inconsistent time between those cannot be ascertained. However if we drop down to 20Hz the human can determine a slightly inconsistent time between each. If we choose slower fps we have to concentrate on improving the consistency."

Steve W breaks it down nicely here

 

and here

Maybe, if we're lucky, Steve will chime in.

 

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9 minutes ago, FunknNasty said:

There isn't a simple explanation ....nothing about running a sim such as P3D can be put in a nutshell.....

I'll give you this little tidbit from Steve W:

"A point often overlooked is that a human can see the difference between 110 and 120Hz, but a slightly inconsistent time between those cannot be ascertained. However if we drop down to 20Hz the human can determine a slightly inconsistent time between each. If we choose slower fps we have to concentrate on improving the consistency."

Steve W breaks it down nicely here

 

and here

Maybe, if we're lucky, Steve will chime in.

 

If the sim FPS can not match the hz of the monitor u will have long frames and stutters.   I am curious about your experience with your G sync monitor.  My experience with G sync and P3D was horrible however that was a couple years ago.  Maybe things have matured?

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