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Prepar3D V5 Waves for anyone interested

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23 minutes ago, Biggles2010 said:

I'm curious about the bright flashes every 2 or 3 seconds. What would be causing them?

That would be lightning! 😁

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For a minute then I thought that was the legendary vatsim ctp vhf transmittor bobbing around at 30w where people are giving position reports on 133.0 or whatever nonsense it is


 
 
 
 
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So, I have to ask...do inland waterways, like streams and rivers, look like the raging North Atlantic during a Nor'easter?  How about lakes?


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Check out the cloud movement and morphing in this video. Its not much of a stretch of the imagination to see the cloud behaviour in the P3D Video as similiar:

 

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20 minutes ago, w6kd said:

So, I have to ask...do inland waterways, like streams and rivers, look like the raging North Atlantic during a Nor'easter?  How about lakes?

That seems to be the case. Like previous versions, the scaling still does not look correct.


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1 hour ago, w6kd said:

So, I have to ask...do inland waterways, like streams and rivers, look like the raging North Atlantic during a Nor'easter?  How about lakes?

Yes in P3Dv5  they all look the same. Same color same wavesize same wavedirection.....size like outisde on a big ocean.....doesnt matter for a small creek and small river......dull and repeating look unfortunately 

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1 minute ago, mpo910 said:

Yes in P3Dv5  they all look the same. Same color same wavesize same wavedirection.....size like outisde on a big ocean.....doesnt matter for a small creek and small river......dull and repeating look unfortunately 

Nope...nope...I can create 12 footers on any water body...either the wind has to dynamically call them up...or you can go into the Weather Engine..I just did for my trip out of port on another thread...

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Found one that has a lot of foam. Not as much as the Prepar3D V5 render. But still lots of white stuff. This I think is quite close:

 

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53 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

Nope...nope...I can create 12 footers on any water body...either the wind has to dynamically call them up...or you can go into the Weather Engine..I just did for my trip out of port on another thread...

Errr...I think that was the point...when has anyone ever seen 12-footers on a river or small lake?  I've camped along the Colorado River between the Glen Canyon dam and the Grand Canyon in 60-mph winds...so strong that we had to secure the tent to the truck to keep it from blowing away.  There were most definitely no 12-foot surfboard-worthy breakers forming on the river.  Wave dynamics are a lot different on small bodies of water and waterways than on the open ocean. 

 

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1 minute ago, w6kd said:

Errr...I think that was the point...when has anyone ever seen 12-footers on a river or small lake?  I've camped along the Colorado River between the Glen Canyon dam and the Grand Canyon in 60-mph winds...so strong that we had to secure the tent to the truck to keep it from blowing away.  There were most definitely no 12-foot surfboard-worthy breakers forming on the river.  Wave dynamics are a lot different on small bodies of water and waterways than on the open ocean. 

 

Oh I understand...what I was saying that all the waves are not a set scale...and being wind driven...they should match the push energy of the water mass to create them.  Now it all depends on if the weather engine in P3D v5 senses wind along a plain vector like land...and with parasitic drag..will be less enough to not affect too much the water surface...but...it also has to do with the depth (as you probably already know...) of the water...that creates synergistic energy which WILL create waves to a height of 8 feet on inland lakes...the size of for instance, Lake Simcoe, in Ontario, Canada.  That is a deep V-bottom glacial lake, that has drowned more persons...sunk more boats...as it can whip up to dark ugly green boat swallowers, in a matter of just ten minutes.  I know...we were caught in a fast up-take from 8 knots off shore, to 34 knots...and in a matter of 12 minutes, I was fighting to keep our Cabin Cruiser from being swamped. Thankfully we didn't..and considered ourselves lucky. Lake Simcoe is a 'drowning' lake...but hey...lovin' P3D v5 and how real I sense the water around me is...as I virtually transverse it! 🙂   I just read a few posts, where the O.P. was stating that no matter where they fly over..or water taxi...the waves in P3D v5, never change...and of course, that is not true.

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4 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

Oh I understand...what I was saying that all the waves are not a set scale...and being wind driven...they should match the push energy of the water mass to create them.  Now it all depends on if the weather engine in P3D v5 senses wind along a plain vector like land...and with parasitic drag..will be less enough to not affect too much the water surface...but...it also has to do with the depth (as you probably already know...) of the water...that creates synergistic energy which WILL create waves to a height of 8 feet on inland lakes...the size of for instance, Lake Simcoe, in Ontario, Canada.  That is a deep V-bottom glacial lake, that has drowned more persons...sunk more boats...as it can whip up to dark ugly green boat swallowers, in a matter of just ten minutes.  I know...we were caught in a fast up-take from 8 knots off shore, to 34 knots...and in a matter of 12 minutes, I was fighting to keep our Cabin Cruiser from being swamped. Thankfully we didn't..and considered ourselves lucky. Lake Simcoe is a 'drowning' lake...but hey...lovin' P3D v5 and how real I sense the water around me is...as I virtually transverse it! 🙂   I just read a few posts, where the O.P. was stating that no matter where they fly over..or water taxi...the waves in P3D v5, never change...and of course, that is not true.

Just out of interest, if there is no wind, are inland water features such as lakes completely smooth as in real life

or are there still waves present?

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